In todays podcast we are talking about State Senator Ford's resignation, the merger of two local hospitals and much more! Make sure to Subscribe to our Youtube channel.
Thank You all for the support, enjoy!
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In todays podcast we are talking about State Senator Ford's resignation, the merger of two local hospitals and much more! Make sure to Subscribe to our Youtube channel.
Thank You all for the support, enjoy!
Intro music by Upstate - How Far We Can Go
Hello everybody, and welcome once again to the MC squared podcast. This is episode 15. I am Andrew McNeil and I'm joined tonight with my ever present host, jimmy McCanna. Ever present, that's right. Well, not ever present, okay. At every episode it feels like we're we're brothers, but anyway. So what, what have you been doing, jimmy? Haven't talked to you in a while.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to roll the intro. Welcome back everybody. So we have a, we have a lot of things going on in our community, a lot of things going on in our state. So I think we're we're going to talk about tonight, um, you know, we're going to talk about a Senator that resigned and there's a caucus for his replacement. That's right. Um, literally today, as we were getting ready to record, um, there was another resignation, political resignation in Indiana. The uh state used to be the auditor that she had her name, they, she had the office, the name of the office changed to comp troller. So, uh, the state comp troller, which I kind of liked auditor. Um, uh, she resigned three years left in her uh um term as well. So I think we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1:There's a mayorial debate tonight, so this is the second one. There was one um channel 10, I believe, and anyway, this is channel two. Uh, so that's that's actually going on while we're recording. So whoever's watching this, it will have already taken place. So if there's any bombshells or anything, you know you'll have to forgive us.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't bet on it.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't either. Uh, I think we'll talk about a little bit something that pertains to everybody here, but also in your world. Uh, the union hospital purchase of regional yeah, that's really great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can talk to that a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you know, geek out on that a little yeah, that's why I work. Yeah, that's right. Um, there's. There's also a couple of other things in here that are really good, but we want to get to the most important most important issue of the day.
Speaker 2:Actually an issue, it is an issue.
Speaker 1:Um, and that would be the McCann and McNeill fantasy football league.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the inaugural season of this league and so Andrew and I kind of thought we should bring our families in. Everybody get a team for fun league. So we have including our wives, our wives to have a team. Yes and uh, two of our children other children do other things so two of our children and our wives, so it's a eight per eight team league. Who's who's the commissioner? I'm the commissioner, I'm the commission. Uh no, I made the rules. I made some extra hidden points in there, which is always nice.
Speaker 2:Did you do that after the season started?
Speaker 1:By the way.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't. Okay, there's bonuses for high yardage, but, uh, you'll be glad to know that yours truly, andrew McNeill and Jimmy McCann, also known as P spice, is so nice. That's my name of my team for this week. What's your team?
Speaker 1:Well, I, I uh well. I shoot high, andrew's champions or something stupid that's like the computer. We, we started out the. We started out the year with a tie. I mean, who does that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so so, and then it was went downhill from there and or not tied in the first game, and then we have lost every one sense.
Speaker 1:So in the in the end I got by my wife, who's never she doesn't understand football at all and I got beat my my wife last week and my 14 year old beat me Because guess what?
Speaker 2:One of my guys was in the questionable marketing and I'm not playing, so I got beat by her, yeah. Of the eight person league, the people in last, that if the playoffs were today would be you and I were in last and I was, so I have this thing that when I get annoyed with my team.
Speaker 2:I changed the name of it. It started off as you've changed the Bible thumper, I know what. The King, king James thumper. I did all kinds of stuff, yeah. And then I just got real weird and started saying pumping and spice, pumpkin spice, so I call it P. Spice is nice. And now I say now it's P. Spice takes the pain away, because that's what my team is. It's extremely painful to watch, to manage and everything. So this is a for fun league, yeah, so how many?
Speaker 1:how many this is. People need to know this. This is important information. What, how, how, how much time did you give us in our draft to pick each player? Um, like 15 seconds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like 15 seconds it was. It was the fastest draft I've ever seen in my life. If you did not have your hand on the player you wanted, sorry If you didn't pick it before your time began, it was too late.
Speaker 1:That's right. I don't know why I didn't?
Speaker 2:We started late at night, you know everybody's tired, and so I want to get it done. And why did that happen Really?
Speaker 1:Well, the, I think I sent out two different drafts maybe a different draft.
Speaker 2:And they weren't working. Can we fire you you can run the thing. It's yours next year buddy you complain about it, you're the commiss.
Speaker 1:So anyway, it's fun. It is fun, the kids love it. Yeah, they especially love beating dad, so they do yeah, and I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's, that's fine, you know? I mean, I'm a New England.
Speaker 1:Patriot fan. So, um, you know, I've gotten a little tired of winning Superbowl, so I get it, you know, it's fine, I can tell you I'm not going to be a fan of it.
Speaker 2:It's fine, I can take one for the team here, and I told you not to mention that in an Indiana podcast. So thank you.
Speaker 3:See you later. Subscribers See you later. Five subscribers we had on YouTube.
Speaker 2:We're down to two now Our wives. Maybe they've signed in.
Speaker 1:That's okay. There's some, I don't know. We'll I digress, we'll move on, okay so, um, what do you want to talk about, senator Ford? Let's talk about Senator Ford, okay so, um this this was a uh, an announcement that took place um last Friday. I believe that that is not. That can't be right. Maybe two weeks ago?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was been a while yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the problem, time. Time is flying so fast right now it's hard to keep track of it. Anyway, um so he announced his rex resignation. Uh, with three years left on his term. He just got elected. They have four year terms and, uh, by the rules, um.
Speaker 1:So Republican or Democrat doesn't matter. Whatever party that you belong to, then has holds a caucus, and the caucus consists of the counties or the precincts of which you your district. So this is all of Clay County, it's all of Vigo County and there's a couple of precincts in Sullivan County that comprise his Senate district. Um, this will be the first caucus, um, that I that I'm going to be a part of because I'm a precinct committee man within there. So I'm going to Clay County, um, next Saturday and we're going to be voting on his replacement.
Speaker 1:I got in a little bit of a trouble because there is a disturbing, in my view, um and I don't think I'm alone in this there's actually a disturbing trend among the establishment in the Republican party and what they're doing, uh, and and and I. I said I got a little bit of trouble because I suspected that's what was going on with this resignation and I was wrong. So I'm going to just say that right out the gate. But, um, and they have the establishment, will have a candidate, that or office holder that says you know what, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to run for reelection, or you know what, what, and they will talk them into running because they clean clear the field. Nobody's nobody in the Republican party is going to run against them. They win their election and, and some period of time into their term, the deal is you're going to resign. The establishment of points, basically, um, and that's what I think is happening again with the auditor, or, oh really, uh, comptroller, which kind of ties into this whole discussion. So, um, eric Holcomb actually appointed Tara Klutz to that position because the previous auditor had resigned.
Speaker 1:They said, I think they said I saw in the news report this afternoon that the last five have not fulfilled their terms. Why would that be? So it's not an. It can come off as an anti-voter move, but it's actually different than that. It's an anti-Republican base move because what they're doing is they're circumventing primary contestants because a statewide Republican candidate is likely to win in Indiana. It's just the way it is. So they're not really worried about a general election win or loss. They're worried about their people being in charge of these offices. So what they've done with Connie Lawson was the last one that I remembered. I remember the last time I was in the state, when she was running for her second term.
Speaker 1:There was a lot of talk about this was going to happen. You're going to, you're going to resign halfway through, you're not going to fill your term, and then Eric Holcomb is just going to reappoint. Because there's no caucus, he appoints her replacement and, oh no, no, not going to happen. Not going to happen Alone. Behold, two years into her four year term, she resigns. Holly Sullivan gets appointed. And so I was at the convention part of the voting when Diego beat her and it was not supposed to be that way, but it was a big, big move by the Republican base as an anti-establishment vote. I don't want to say it was so. With Diego, I don't want to say that it was a. I mean, give him credit. He campaigned really hard, but there was an element of support for him that was just flat out not going to accept the pick that Eric Holcomb had put into place, oh yeah definitely so that played into it.
Speaker 1:So then again, with Tara, here we go. She just got elected, she got elected, we appointed her, you know, for reelection at that same convention. She gets, she won, wins reelection, and then she quits for three years, left on her term and for you know something in the private sector.
Speaker 2:So back to John Ford so this you're saying, this wasn't the case.
Speaker 1:Well, so so I mean, I hate to be suspicious, but I just am so with with Senator Ford. He just got elected with no opposition. He was unopposed on the Democrat side. They couldn't find a Democrat to run against him. He was that popular.
Speaker 1:So part of the scenario running through my mind was hey, if you're, if you're the Senate leadership or you're the party leadership, and Senator Ford came to you this, not this, I want to make clear this did not happen or that we know of. But if he came to you and said, hey, I don't want to run for another term, these guys are going to go, or be tempted to go, or seem to have had a pattern of going, I'll tell you what. Can you not just win and then, sometime after, resign and we'll get a replacement in there. But we will not have to deal with the Democrats, we will not have to deal with our prime, an open primary where you'll have 15 different candidates. I mean, what I have heard around the grapevine of this caucus is that there were at least a dozen people who wanted to run for this, the seat, really, so there was a lot of interest. So back to what happened on a Friday, he announces. On Monday morning there is a press release and a ton of endorsements of the candidate. They want to win this from the Republican Party.
Speaker 1:So, and again, not against the candidate. I, I, I, great good is. Is seems to be a really nice guy. I've had plenty of conversations with him. His views seem to be right in line with mine. Again, it's not against him, but immediately I was like, okay, you don't do that over one or two days. Something was in the works for a while and it may have been in the works for a week, maybe two, but it wasn't. You know, it wasn't a year plan, so that sort of thing. So, and and that was my wife was asking about that. So you know why would they put that out there in the paper? You know, is this, is this to chill? You know the voters? And I said no because it's only precinct committee people, that it's the party that will vote. That's the confusing Anti-candidate move. It was to send the message to anybody interested in this precinct in this caucus. Yeah, you're not welcome.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We don't want you. And I think it worked because not because the press release on Monday, but because of all the endorsements that he had already gotten lined up from Todd Young, the party chairs, bob Heaton, alan Morrison and Senator Ford himself, which a lot of folks were going to probably defer to what Senator Ford wanted for his replacement anyway. So again, this is inside baseball that a lot of people don't care about and don't want. But my concern always has been that the voters are the ones electing our officials. Even if I don't like who gets elected, that we kind of move away from backdoor deals that get folks in. So I feel you know if somebody wants to run, you know there's still possibility that there's going to be a few other candidates who are going to run. We'll see. I think Greg Good's probably far and away the favorite to win this.
Speaker 2:What did he do prior to this?
Speaker 1:So Greg Good, right now he is the statewide coordinator for Todd Young, Senator Todd Young and he explained to me that because the Senate job, these Senate legislative jobs, do not make it, you don't make enough to live on. I think it's around 40,000 give or take, and if it's more than that it's because you're working more. I mean it becomes a full time job at that point and it's not substantially more. So I think Senator Ford might have been up to close to 50,000 somewhere in that range, and so it takes up a lot of your time. He is going to continue to work in that statewide capacity for Senator Young. Just take a leave of absence when the legislature is in session is what he explained to me. So what he did prior to that is he was a government relation liaison for ISU. So that's what he filled.
Speaker 2:So is he local then or not? Yeah, he is local. Yeah, he's from he's in Terre Haute. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Got a couple kids in college I think, okay, family man, so honestly the nicest guy you'll ever meet. I can't say enough good things about him. Nothing that I say is personal or has anything to do with him. I just, I don't know, just get a little burnout.
Speaker 2:No, I totally get it. Well, why don't you? What is a for people that don't know? Precinct committee men or precinct committee people? You know you can run for those positions, that's correct. Yeah, and the Democrat Party puts up a lot of people. They get real serious about that. Yeah, but unfortunately in the Vigo, in Vigo County, republican Party you don't see very people run right Like you and your wife ran.
Speaker 1:I ran, I ran, yeah, and then my wife got appointed advice, which is very typical. So if I were not able to make this caucus, I would have to fill out a letter and she could go in my stead. That's just basically, yeah.
Speaker 2:And vote the opposite way.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:So, but, the interest. The really interesting aspect is, if there are all these precincts around the county and the ones that people don't run for right, then the county chair can appoint a point, or how does that work A?
Speaker 1:lot of them. A lot of them just stay vacant.
Speaker 2:But they can't be a point. Decreases the vote.
Speaker 1:It can, but a lot of these precincts need to be eliminated. Yeah, honestly, there's not very many voters in them. They can be consolidated or eliminated. It's and that's on both sides, I think it's. It's kind of a in Vigo County. It's kind of a mess. It's not the case, I don't think, in Clay County or in Sullivan, but in. But because we have Terre Haute covers most of Vigo County. There are a lot of places that are nothing more than a parking lot. Now that used to have. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they just left the precincts the way they are, well, and a precinct committee person.
Speaker 2:Really it's unpaid position, right? Yeah, yeah, Absolutely Right, it's totally volunteer. But they're they're technically supposed to know they're precinct and they're supposed to sign up new voters, yeah, when they move into that precinct, yeah, so do you think the Republican party does that Well? No, I mean, I don't think any precinct committee person in Vigo County does it well there might be.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to disparage anyone, yeah, I know, but I've always.
Speaker 2:I thought it was really interesting when I learned more about what their job is. Is like you're really supposed to have your pulse on your neighborhood, yeah, and who's moving in? Hey. Are you signed to vote? Yeah, Whatever you know, obviously there's a Republican and Democrat for each precinct Right, but I don't know. Well, it's a good.
Speaker 1:Lincoln was a precinct committeeman early early.
Speaker 2:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:And when the reading his account, he did exactly what you said. He had a list and he made sure they all got to the polls. He had it organized. He organized his precinct. He took a list of the Republican voters and he made sure he talked to each one of them and made sure they were going to get to the polls or whatever vote. I mean it was a very grassroots organizational course. They didn't have television and cell phones back then. I mean, what else were you going to do besides try to survive and be you know, kill wild beasts and stuff.
Speaker 2:So I mean so you want to, you want to take back your county, that's what you run for. Absolutely that's what you run for, but then you take it at you take it as serious as Abraham Lincoln did, absolutely, and it could be done like that. I mean, there would it. It would really change if you really took over your entire precinct.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:But now a lot of people at the time that do that.
Speaker 1:No, and it's really it'd be difficult, it's interesting today because back then people really did identify with parties, and there are a segment of our society that still does. But there are a lot of voters who refuse to identify as either Republican or Democrat, and it's not just independence. They've had it with some of them. A lot of them are conservative, but they've had it with the party, so they're refusing to.
Speaker 3:they will not if you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So there's a there's a decent amount of voters that that are especially in Vigo County and in Terre Haute. They're they kind of are all over the place Politically. They're hard to nail down to a party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you're, when you're walking for your campaign, you know exactly.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Some people are black and white, yes, but a lot of them are not, yeah, and that's kind of the beauty of it, because they're not totally for you or totally against you.
Speaker 1:So no, I enjoy it and I think that's not. It's not a terrible thing, no, it's a good, but it does hurt the party, because sometimes the party needs good people to push it in the right direction. And so if you're not participating, you know it's going to drift and it's never going to drift to the right, the right place.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about something else.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's, let's move on. So and I am a little done with politics, so let's move on to something else. So, okay, union Hospital just purchased regional hospital. Yeah, and you work for Union. Yes, full disclosure. Yep, and you signed a NDA. Yes, I did so. You knew about this whole thing and you didn't even tell me I couldn't.
Speaker 2:You didn't whisper it to me. That's the situation.
Speaker 1:I mean, you didn't you didn't write it on a piece of paper and slide it across, hey nothing.
Speaker 2:You didn't even give me a special sign that something was going on the signature means something.
Speaker 2:Okay, wow, that was hard, wow, but anyway it's it's. It's an interesting it's. David, it's been the work for a long time, but never as serious as it is now. Now, it's still not 100%. No way, it's still not 100%.
Speaker 2:There's some stuff at the state level that they could throw up, and I've a little, but we have 120 days. So what's their concern? Just like, just like any. So this is this is the best way that I can explain it. So the, the state doesn't like monopolies of hospitals, and I totally like. I understand that.
Speaker 2:Right, you have the same hospital in a city, in a in this area, then you have monopoly when it comes to services, when it comes to costs and all this other stuff. So Tarahot region hospital has been wanting to sell for quite a while. They're they're HCA hospitals, so they are part of a much larger group. And if you look at HCA hospitals across the country, they're like in the south, up up the East Coast, and then boom, tarahot Indiana was like this one kind of in. So it's kind of the one that's, and I kind of always thought myself it was kind of like one of the ride-off hospitals. Right, they're so big that they're going to do the ride-offs through this.
Speaker 2:So I did some clinical time there back in 2007. And I loved it. I mean I've worked at Union ever since I was 19. I was working at Union while I was in respiratory therapy school, but I went to regional hospital. I loved it. There are some really there's really good clinical people there. They were good physicians, great engagement, they took great care of their patients and it was big. The interesting thing now is, from what I've here, it's not nearly as big as it used to be, so it's kind of dwindled in size a little bit. I think a lot of that comes with when you start losing providers and different things, then you just don't get as many patients to come in.
Speaker 2:But anyway, back to the state. So the state doesn't like those monopolies to happen. So we agreed as a health system now that we could approach a couple different and I'll bring up two of them. We signed what's called a COPPA but we could go after a couple of different metrics in our community and we could do them better together than we could separate. So in allowing the monopoly, we have to go after some targets, and they're two biggies. The first one is infamortality. So we unfortunately Vigo County and surrounding counties we have a high infamortality rate. So bringing services together from both these hospitals we believe will help that, and so we actually need to prove it. So that's kind of one of the things that definitely gonna go after.
Speaker 2:The other one is behavioral health. Regional has a behavioral health lockdown unit and it's full all the time. It's full all the time. We and I'll just be real on we transfer probably three to five patients a day from Union Hospital all throughout the state for behavioral health services. That is the problem that we have going on here. Some of it's addiction, but there's just a lot of behavioral health issues around here and I think that if you're out and you'll see it but that's one of the goals with this is to go after what can we do better for our community as far as behavioral health and definitely for infamortality? So I think that when we come together, that's what you're gonna be seeing targets towards.
Speaker 2:A lot of us as leaders we have just a little inkling of what may happen, but there's a lot of this planning that's gonna be done. The way I see it, union Hospital does some stuff really well and we do some stuff that we don't do well, we stink at some things. I mean, that's just the way you're gonna have. Regional does great stuff with certain areas and they're not good at other areas. And I just really hope for our community and this sounds very political, but I really hope for a community that both of our goods come together so we can use their good. We can use our good together. Maybe their strengths beat our weaknesses and our weaknesses are built up by their strengths.
Speaker 1:Do you see that? Do you see the compliment of that or?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do. I see some different things that they have. They do there and some of the, and they have a very rich history.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, really Union does too. But they have a really rich history and actually, funny enough, I was born there at regional hospital with St Anthony's at the time, back in 1981, but Not dating yourself. No, I don't need to. Just younger than you are.
Speaker 1:You are much younger than me.
Speaker 2:So but anyway, I do see that they're gonna we're gonna compliment really well. So there's a lot of I'm really excited about it. I know a lot of leaders are everybody, and I'm sure there's people at regional hospital and Union Hospital we've talked to that are a little anxious about it, just because what's gonna change? Honestly, I really I like to see the positive, but I really see it as a good thing for our community. It's gonna be a lot of work and as a leader that's what I see it like man that's gonna be a ton of work, but there's a way more potential together than separate. So we've always kind of not openly fought each other, but I feel like there's always been a little battle going on and so it'll be nice to have their team on our team now and our team on their team.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I think that still will be on campuses, but you never know. Union South, is it gonna be called Union South?
Speaker 2:That's a great question, andrew. So I that's actually being thrown around, but I have a. I've heard this recommendation from somebody, but I would absolutely do it and so I would love it, because there was a hospital in Northern Indiana that bought another one close by. They actually changed both names. Oh, that wouldn't be a bad idea, and they called it Beacon Medical. So they went not the same name as both, but they called it anew. I really like that.
Speaker 3:That's not a bad idea that's gonna change a ton of logos, but who cares?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's a great way to kind of bring.
Speaker 1:It's good for the printing industry, so I'm always, I'm always happy about that.
Speaker 2:You like when we change logos, I do.
Speaker 1:Brand change is like my bread and butter Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Everybody needs to change their brand right now. You need to get union to count, cause that's about the. I think somebody or reunion.
Speaker 1:Somebody's gonna need to call it reunion. Oh no, yeah, that's kind of ridiculous. Oh, that's terrible. That's a bad name, that's a very bad name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good things to come. It's gonna be over the next six months, year, two years.
Speaker 1:Well, that's exciting.
Speaker 2:It is exciting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, A lot of work but a lot of real exciting. Okay, so there's a couple of things. Maybe we could just do a really fast. Like you know, I know you had a. You had something about idiotic things to stop doing, for, oh my gosh, yeah, I wanted to hear that, okay.
Speaker 2:So I read this article this week I thought it's so, it's towards the medical community, but this could actually go in so many different directions, and I think about your son, drew, like there might be people that we hire in the future just to come in and and fix all the dumb things we do, okay, so anyway, this is called the power of stupid stuff, initiative, and this has been done at many hospitals but, as you can imagine, it could be done at many other, like any kind of company. So, and it's mainly when it comes to computer programs, because we computerize something and then we automatically think, oh, we've, we've made it as efficient as we can have it. Now the, the really thing they've been. So what? In medicines we're so far behind. But in medicine we have electronic health records, ehrs, yes, so, and they're so clunky, andrew. I mean, it's like it's. It just makes no sense.
Speaker 2:The medical person designed them. That's the problem. You need somebody that's an engineer to design them. So, but they so what? This? What they've done at some of these large hospitals is they've said you know what? We're going to put an actual person on this to fix this. So they go and they talk to all of the employees and they say what really burns you, about what your day to day is.
Speaker 1:That's monotonous with your computer program. You have some time yeah.
Speaker 2:I do actually. Yeah. So the crazy thing is is that this one hospital and I believe this was in North Carolina they were able to reduce their clicks on their computers by 26 million clicks per year. Right, that actually calculated into like 36,000 hours saved, so wow.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so that's, but there's. There's no example of exactly what they were, just some redundancy maybe, or it's all redundancy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and maybe that's in help. Maybe it's not in your world or in other worlds, but I mean it's like, well, you click here and you pull this here and you do this here and you say, oh, it's electronic, but it's never actually been like totally brought down to this level. That is quick, yeah, or uses or uses any kind of intelligence at all.
Speaker 1:Well, so not to pick on Tabco, where I work great place. And again, I don't have a solution to this, but I remember when I walked in eight years ago and the center of their office place, the center of where everybody works, was basically a giant filing cabinet room and I'm like did I just get zapped back to the early 80s, I mean, or the 70s, or what? What is this? And so, right now and again, not to pick on Tabco. Not to pick on Tabco, the greatest place in the world to get your single source of print and promotional products, which they are fantastic, and if you call in, you need to ask for it. There is a salesman, andrew. Yeah, I think you need to ask for Andrew.
Speaker 2:Anyway, he might take your account.
Speaker 1:So I'm like they're computerized. All their orders are computerized. There are just computerized. Why do we have filing cabinets? Well, because we need to keep a physical paper file of everything we have in the computer. Yes, and when we print something, we need a sample of that print. It goes in, which is a great idea, but then we have just loads of paper and redundancy in everything we're doing. Which is fine, that's great, but that's kind of that inefficiency you're talking about. A printing company or promotional products company could start up tomorrow and never use a filing cabinet and they wouldn't need it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they probably wouldn't, they just wouldn't need it.
Speaker 1:So I mean the but it's hard to let yourself go because it is kind of nice to go in and go. Well, let me go look at the last job that was run. Let's look at this physical piece of paper.
Speaker 2:But we have thousands and thousands and thousands of jobs After a while it's too much so, and I know this is a big thing in medicine also, is they like backup things?
Speaker 2:Yes, I want a paper copy of that. Yeah, I mean, there are large health systems that have their entire EMR on clouds now. Yes, and that's like really important information that they have on clouds. So I mean, I think that we have to get a little bit more and I hate to say this trusting Right, Because if they're willing to trust, then we kind of need to be too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's hard to do.
Speaker 2:If there's an apocalypse, what's that magnetic pulse thing?
Speaker 3:Right, emp, yes, you guys would be okay with EMP, because you got your piece of paper.
Speaker 1:We have all the filing cabinets.
Speaker 2:You're not going to have any customers.
Speaker 1:No, we could what's going?
Speaker 2:to matter All the computers. I got the piece of paper but it doesn't mean that a customer cannot get a family. I know.
Speaker 1:We just need more filing cabinets. Yes, Okay. So a couple of things Real quick. Deming Park this is very, very, very local, but I know it's kind of close to us. Super local, yeah, I mean, our boys play a disc golf there. It's a great park, by the way, In fact.
Speaker 3:Terre.
Speaker 1:Haute. If you haven't been to Terre Haute, and if you haven't been to Terre Haute recently, their park system is great.
Speaker 2:It's really getting better.
Speaker 1:It is fantastic. I have nothing but really good things to say about it. But so and there's accusations that maybe this proposal is coming up because there's a mayorial race- Come on, it couldn't be.
Speaker 3:I have no idea. It's a city park. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:But there was a proposal. I'm not going to go through the details, but it's basically to expand the. We have a pool, they have a little pool there. They want to expand the pool and put a lazy river and expand the park, the pool part of it, and then also some kind of maybe a year round athletic building, which I think that isn't a bad idea. But my problem is, my little question about this is so it's already a very busy park. Are we really wanting? And it's free, there's no, I mean, the pool's not free, you got to pay for that. But I mean, are we really? Is this, is it warranted? I just, I don't know. I think logistics would be difficult.
Speaker 2:Sex are difficult with that park because there's there's one entrance, one exit. Yeah, there's other options on the backside and I don't know why they don't want the backside of the park.
Speaker 1:Maybe they could do that. They would have to, they would have to.
Speaker 2:But this is it's just. It's so fishy that it's in. I've heard that I mean come on, We've heard this before.
Speaker 1:Folks are like. You had a hard time keeping the pool open two years ago anyway.
Speaker 2:I know. So gosh, dang it. Why did you do it last year? I would have believed it. Yeah, how to get behind it.
Speaker 1:Do you think there's a huge demand for that? Now, if it was a, now if it was a massive pool and he had lots of water slides, I mean it was a big deal. Like they have. I think they have one in Marshall, they definitely have one at Shack-a-Mac St Park. It's really no-transcript. Yeah, I mean, would that? Wouldn't that be a draw?
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's gotta be much. I guess gotta be Shack-Mac bigger than Shack-Mac even. Yeah, I see that happening. Probably bigger than Marshall but almost water park-ish to bring people in. So, you're just gonna entertain the same kids that you had before and essentially your baby's sitting the most of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and do we want that in Deming Cause? Deming is a great for walking and running and playing disc golf. I mean, it's a.
Speaker 2:It's a great community park yeah, but it's a city park and it really relates closely to the mayor or race.
Speaker 3:That's why they want it there. It's not the best place, but it's the best place, right now, okay, that's my thought that's our two cents.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so I did want to talk about this folks real quick, not as much about an issue, but just trying to pick your brain and see what might be of interest out there in YouTube world or podcast world. Would you be interested in us doing interviews of the governor candidates, the gubernatorial candidates that are running for Indiana? I know I've had one that's reached out, would be willing, I'm sure once one does, they all would, and we would want to obviously be fair with that on the Republican side. I feel like I hate to say this, jimmy, but our podcast is different and I just feel like that might be a little bit boring. I don't like so I don't like just the canned interviews. I want to ask honestly, if it was someone that was running for governor, I would want to ask specifically what the duties are, what something that would be informative, something that would be different than what you're going to get just from a media interview.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know if we're, I don't know if we could pull that off.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know if a lot of these guys are going to get off their campaign message and would that even be a draw? I don't know. So let us know in the comments if you would, if this is something you would be interested in. You can also send us an email at the MCsquared podcast at gmailcom and Jimmy always has to remind me of that because it is a long. It is a long email. We'll put that also in the description so that you've got some contact info. Let's just let us know is that something you would be interested in?
Speaker 2:Second thing on that, if you are, we would really like to have questions from you, because I think that would be much more authentic than the guys who run the podcast. Ask the questions and make them tough. Oh yeah, make them tough so we can say this question isn't from us, this is from a viewer, and I think that would be really good. So, if you're for it, also, when the candidates come on, please hit us up with some questions. That will help us out quite a bit. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been a really good time talking to you. Did you have anything else you wanted to?
Speaker 2:No, I'm excited about the new.
Speaker 1:Studio Diggs. We could even mention that.
Speaker 2:Look at this. We got this. We're in the log cabin. Yeah, undisclosed log cabin An undisclosed log cabin somewhere inside of the boundaries of Digo.
Speaker 1:County Exciting new, brand new equipment that someone has graciously allowed us to use. This did not come from the sponsorship of any of our sponsors. That didn't pan out. But if you would like to sponsor the show, that is another thing. This is something we are both committed to. We're gonna continue to make these roughly every other week, but certainly, even if we take breaks, it'll probably won't be very long breaks. We enjoy getting together. We do Shooting the breeze. Hopefully you've enjoyed this episode as well. We're definitely gonna have our wives on again sometime soon. But we're looking for sponsors. We can discuss how much. Probably wouldn't be very much, but we would definitely need a logo.
Speaker 2:We could stick it back here. Yeah, we could stick a logo On the log cabin edge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if we can do it right. Maybe we can stick it right here.
Speaker 1:I don't know, maybe we can stick it right, here it is yeah, so would you wanna wrap us?
Speaker 2:up and Sure hey. So thanks for watching and this is the first episode of the second season, so make sure you're liking, subscribing and commenting in YouTube's doing pretty well and we appreciate that. That's all from you guys. Appreciate you listening and we are signing off for now. See ya Later.
Speaker 3:I got a fire in me. You're gonna set to burn and we got a world to see and all the time to learn. Set out on our road, see how far we can go.