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Trump's Tax Proposal and the looming Convention fight| Episode #26
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In this episode Jimmy and Andrew discuss Trump's Tax Proposal, the upcoming Republican convention and more.
Intro music by Upstate - How Far We Can Go
Trump's Tariff Tax Proposal Analysis
Speaker 1Hi everybody , welcome to the MC Squared podcast . My name is Andrew McNeil and I am joined , as always , with my co-host , jimmy McKenna , that's right . Well , this is one of our summer episodes . I guess it's a little warm in here .
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Speaker 1All right . So what do we want to tackle first ? We want to jump right into the Trump conviction . We've got a Trump tax proposal that came out today . I thought was pretty exciting .
Speaker 2Let's talk about that . Okay , yeah , I don't . The conviction .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , so it came out today , but it was actually , I guess , discussed possibly yesterday evening in a Republican conference , the big conference they were having . Trump was a part of it , obviously , and he proposed eliminating income taxes , federal income taxes in the United States , and he would supplement or use tariffs as a substitute . And what's interesting to me about this , being a student of history , is that this is actually the way the country was founded . That is exactly how we were set up tax-wise . The only way the federal government could raise taxes was tariffs and the president had that ability to do it . It goes back to I think there was Jefferson imposed tariffs and there were some other presidents that did it .
Speaker 1It's an interesting thing because the concept and this is this is something Rush used to talk about always with unintended consequences from government policy , whatever they decide to do . I mean this is just as a rule whatever they're trying , whoever they're trying to help and whoever they're trying to punish doesn't matter . It usually works the opposite and it usually doesn't work ever like they think it's going to . So tariffs , theoretically , are supposed to take the money from foreign companies who are trying to import , trying to sell to Americans , so , like Trump did a tariff on Chinese imports , there was a tariff for a while on steel imports , and all of that is intended to help American industry . So if America is producing steel , then you put a tariff on foreign steel , so you're hoping that your steel companies will prosper in America . Well , that is the . That is the theory , and what actually happens every single time is it's actually and again , I'm 100% for this proposal but it is a tax on the American people . And why do you think that is Because we buy things .
Speaker 2Yes , I mean , that's the whole reason .
Speaker 1So who is hurt if your imported item is more expensive ? It isn't .
Speaker 2The buyer yes , it's us .
Speaker 1And it's always a tax on us . But we have a choice . It's a sale , it's basically a sales tax , it works out to be a sales tax and it it's a choice . We have a choice . We know that this item is going to cost more , um , because of the tax , we , we don't have to buy it . We can buy it . We don't have to buy it with an income tax . You are working your , your rear end off . You are earning a ? A , a salary or wage , uh , tips , whatever it is , you've worked for it , the government hasn't worked for it , it hasn't done anything for it , and it's taking 37 , 40% of your paycheck and uh , and you have no choice . In fact , if you decide , uh , decide that you are not going to send them the money , they will come and take everything you own and garnish your wages for future repayment .
Speaker 2So I like it . Okay , so explain this to me . I guess this might be a little bit more deep . So the tariff would be on any imports . So then companies would be paying a lot of tariff because if they had some type of material that was off , exactly , they would have to pay more , exactly . So even if it was a us company , then every everything across the board . Let's say our bag of cheetos , right , okay , it's going to go up for everybody , yes , now , but everybody is going to not have the income tax , so they're going to have more money in their pocket , correct . But everything else is going to go up . Everything in cost , yes , except if you produce it yourself , like if you are , yeah , so , theoretically , your steel producers .
Speaker 1when they have a tariff on foreign steel , theoretically your steel producers will make more money . But you know what happens , because this is all market-driven supply and demand . Yeah , it is so . If you are a steel producer and your competitor is forced to raise their prices , what are you going to do ? You're going to do better .
Speaker 2You're going to raise your prices . You're right , because you're going to raise your prices right under them , absolutely Barely in their economy .
Speaker 1So it always comes back to , the American people will pay more Tariffs , not necessarily a great long-term solution . Getting rid of the income tax is absolutely phenomenal and it is a conservative idea that the Republican Party long abandoned , but Ronald Reagan would have been for this . This is conservatism 101 . The income tax . Do you know the history of the income tax ? I don't , oh gosh .
Speaker 1So back in the turn of the 20th century , so 19, . I feel like this was like 1917-ish , I think . That's when the income tax and we had to pass an amendment to allow it and again , I didn't do my homework , so I don't know the exact amendment , but this was at the same time that they removed the election of senators by your state legislator and they turned it to be a populist vote . So that sounds like a great idea , but it was actually a way of reducing the authority and power of the state , which is what the Constitution , what our republic , is built on , anyway . So they instituted an income tax and the argument ? It was big , big controversy at the time , but the argument was for heaven's sakes , people , the government will never take more than like a 9% . I mean , 9% is probably ridiculous , but it would never go as high as what God requires , which is 10% , so we will always , as the government , be below . I mean , that was literally , that was the , that was the thing , and , of course , the government government be below .
Speaker 1I mean , that was literally the thing and of course the government was lying , like they always are , and we have seen absolute confiscation of American wages and the American wage . The power of the American dollar in the pocket of the working man has just depleted ever since that time . So I am 100% for getting rid of the income tax .
Speaker 2So tell me , tell me how this affects , just if we look down downstream , joe Smith and you know he works makes $35,000 a year . Yeah , okay , and he's got a family and let's say his wife stays at home , so $35,000 , that's very , I mean , that's rough , okay , but let's compare that to Bobby , who's making $350,000 a year .
Speaker 1So this is where when the rubber meets the road . This is where the class warfare that has already been propagated in America the Marxists have taken over our economic thought process here would go wild . And this is the real battle . What you hit on is exactly the real battle , because the truth is a guy making $35,000 a year with four kids at home isn't paying any federal taxes . Okay , so he sees no change to his income . The guy making $200,000 , he's got two kids is going to see his income probably 40% increase in his income , in his take-home income . You are talking , you're going to have to sell the American people on what it will do for our economy . It will explode it . We will see prosperity like you have never seen if we got rid of the income tax but how it's going to be spun is what it's going to .
Speaker 1Oh yeah yeah , it's going to help the rich person . Yeah , absolutely , yeah it's . I mean , it's absolutely not fair , right ? Why should we be taking more money from somebody who's producing ? I have have no idea , but that's the world we live in . So I think the political reality might be tough , but it is the fair , proper and best economic solution we could possibly have is to get rid of the income tax and also get rid of property taxes . I hate property taxes .
Speaker 2It's confiscation of land that you own ? Don't you think this should be some type of incremental thing , where they do one and see how it works and then do another ?
Speaker 1Well , we know there's already states with no income taxes and they prosper Florida , Texas , there may be a couple others .
Speaker 2They have no income tax . In Florida they have property tax though .
Speaker 1Well , I think everybody has property tax . Everybody loves that idea of property tax . They love the idea of redistributing that wealth , because that's what it is . You have these farmers that have accumulated 1,000 acres and it's difficult because they own so much land . The government sees them as filthy rich which they're not . Filthy rich which they're not . Same thing with large houses handing down an inheritance to your kids or any of those things . The government is looking to basically take money where it has no business taking money and it's all in an effort to kind of level . We call level the playing field , but it's actually just expand the misery for everybody . Yeah .
Speaker 2That's all it does .
Speaker 1Yeah , okay . So anyway , I think it's a great idea , I think it's a conservative idea , I think it makes sense and I think I think it'd be well-received whether it actually happens .
Speaker 2I don't think it'll go . Yeah , unfortunately , but anyway .
Speaker 1Yeah , okay , so let's talk about the Trump conviction . What did you think
Erosion of Trust in America
Speaker 1? Were you there ? When did you hear about it ? I wasn't there . You weren't there .
Speaker 2I haven't watched it much , I'll be honest .
Speaker 1When you found out about it . When was that ?
Speaker 2I don't know . I've heard a little bit about it , but I've not been super involved with it . I don't , like I said , man , I don't get super worked up about . Well , that's good , I'll give you . I heard a little bit about it , so I've got a little bit of a take and I'm just going to throw it out . And I think it has a lot to do with my area , too , of medicine , as I think that there are so many strongholds in this country that we believe as truths , and many of them are being exposed , and I'll start with medicine and what happened in 2020 . So I think there's a ton of exposure there , and I think that there's a lot of smoke and mirrors that are there that have been exposed , and I think that our judicial system is also the exact same way . I think that there's these things that we think that we hold to , that are going to be truthful , that are going to be whatever , and we can trust .
Speaker 2yeah , and they're broken and I actually kind of and I hate to say this , but I mean , I think we should have our trust in one thing , and it's just being exposed and exposed more .
Speaker 1Yeah , well , I think you hit that nail on the head . That's , that's a great take , because the reality is they didn't . They didn't deal any serious damage to Donald Trump . No , they dealt maybe fatal damage to the trust of the American people in their judicial system . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1And it became crystal clear throughout the trial , if you were paying attention to any of the details that came out , not not only was it completely compromised and completely rigged and completely set up , the the charges themselves , that all of it was just it was out of the pages of the communists in Soviet Russia when they would have these show trials , it was literally out of those books . I mean it was . And so when the verdict was reached immediately , which was ridiculous and convicted on all counts , and just you know , 34 counts , whatever I think there , initially at the time I was way more angry than I thought I would be . I was actually very angry and very concerned for my country and very concerned for my country . I felt deeply disturbed about where we were heading as a country , more than I was before . But since then , because it's been a little while I mean obviously folks are watching this it's going to have been maybe a month since it happened .
Speaker 1In retrospect , I have to say I have seen what appears to be a tidal wave of opinion shift , not just towards Trump but against the erosion of what was America . Yeah , we used to be able to count on , even if you had , every once in a while a corrupt judge or a judge that got it wrong or a jury that got it wrong you could depend on . Well , they're going to get it right , because there's enough good , law-abiding , god-fearing people in the judicial system who will make a decision not based on politics or whether they like the man , but on legal precedent and what's good for the defendant and what's good for the country and what's right , what's lawful , and I don't think we believe that that is going to be the case anymore . I mean again , I hate to beat a dead horse , but the proof of a stolen election in 2020 is still coming out . It was overwhelming and not a single judge would touch it with a 10-foot pole . I mean , that was our recourse that the judicial system would review , it , would take a look at . No , it wasn't going to happen . So Trump raised , I think , $100 million in 48 hours . He had a massive amount of new donors that poured in .
Speaker 1I have heard so many movie stars , people that we , you know models , I mean just you know all kinds of secular people , the folks that have had nothing to do with politics , saying we've had it . We are going to support Donald Trump and I didn't support him before , I don't even like him , but this cannot stand . You had the Dr Phil interview just shortly afterwards and that was phenomenal . I watched parts of it , some excerpts of it , but it was when Dr Phil talked about that they were banned off of TikTok because they tried to do a promo for the show and they wouldn't allow it because Donald Trump was in it , that there was a gasp in the audience and then people began to have , I think , almost the blinders coming off their eyes to realize we are not being allowed to know what is happening here , and that cannot be .
Speaker 1It has nothing to do with whether Donald Trump and here's the dumb thing , jimmy look at the politics of Donald Trump and they are actually not very radical . No , yeah , they aren't . I mean he's like obey the laws we already have immigration laws on the book , books , shut the border , like what our law says to do . I mean he isn't rewriting new laws , it's just literally upholding them . Make America great again . Well , that's a horrible , that's a radical I mean idea .
Speaker 2Whoever wants their nation to be great Inflammatory statement oh my gosh .
Speaker 1So his actual politics are not radical , but he's not purchased or a part of the establishment , and that's what terrifies them .
Battle for the Future of America
Speaker 1So I think we should talk about I mean , I think we should what do you think is going to happen ? Because there's a lot of folks that are right now saying Biden's at a 37% approval rating . The momentum is all Donald Trump . It is all Donald Trump . It does not matter what the secular media has done . He is picking up steam everywhere he goes . He's going to win in a landslide . Do you think he's going to win in a landslide ?
Speaker 2Well , I think he won a landslide in the previous election .
Speaker 1personally , Okay , so that got stolen . So what changed ? What has changed since then ?
Speaker 2Well , unfortunately , nothing has changed and I believe that our election system was also one of those strongholds that we held to that . No , this will be figured out in the election system and that was kind of one in the election system . Yeah , and that was kind of one of the first things to break . Well , I mean , the medical system broke , the election system broke . Yeah , I mean in the last four years . Think about all the distrust now that's slowly seeping out of these strongholds that we have seen as , like you know , these are truths in our country .
Speaker 1These are institutions in our country .
Speaker 2These are institutions in our country . I heard an interesting and I don't . I mean he went on a landslide , yeah , he should , yes , so . But I heard an interesting thing every time the enemy comes at harder , they get penalized or they get pushed down even more . The stronger the attacks get , the greater the enemy is losing . And so I heard this from Johnny Enloe and he actually related it back to Pharaoh . I mean , you've probably heard this , I'm sure you've probably heard this analogy before .
Speaker 2But it's . I mean , let my when Moses let the people go , and every time he said , oh yeah , I'm going to do this , and didn't ? It got worse ? And it got go . Yeah . And every time he said , oh yeah , I'm going to do this , and didn't . Yeah , it got worse . Yeah , and it got worse . Yes , and it got worse and it got worse . And now that looks really familiar to what's going on now . I mean , everything seems like the next attack and it gets worse . But when do they get to go ? And will we be a part of that ? Right , that's what I want to be a part of Well , think about it for a minute .
Speaker 1So you've got in Egypt and you've got the children of Israel , so you've got the people who are captive , and you have the government or the leadership that are the oppressors , and God's dealing with the oppressors in that story . I think it's very similar here . I honestly believe in this . This may be news for somebody here , and I think this is a really important and good point . It is not , and it hasn't been for a while , about Democrat versus Republican . It is about elitists and it is about the people . Those are the . Those are actually the battle lines and that's why you see a lot of Republican leaders that are angry and they don't like that .
Speaker 1Donald Trump's popular . That's right . They don't like it . When we go off the reservation and I mean they are totally if this comes , if he wins in a landslide , he wins the house and he wins the senate and he proposes that the , that the income tax , it will be republicans that sabotage it . Yeah , it won't be democrats . Democrats are a very unfortunately . I mean don't like it . I don't agree with that . They stand , but they're extremely principled . They're marxists and if it isn't marxism , they're not voting for it . I mean , you know what they're going to do . Republicans act like and talk like they're conservative , but they are not .
Speaker 1Generally , the ones in power are , for them , staying in power , and anytime that looks like the masses are waking up and starting to figure out something's not right . We've been electing these same people over and over again and nothing is getting done . Nothing that , oh , they're mad . They're mad about this and they're mad about that , and they don't do anything about it . We're just being fooled , and I do believe the positive side of this is that God has used Donald Trump to wake us up , and what I saw happen after that verdict of 34 counts was an awakening of people that have said I don't like politics , I'm sick of all of them . Blah , blah , blah , blah , blah . I saw something switch where there was almost the attitude of yeah , but this is our country and no politician is going to destroy it , no judge is going to destroy it . No entertainment industry is going to destroy it . No , no false election is going to destroy it . We have got to stand up and I do believe this that we have one chance , jimmy , to get this right . It is this time Now .
Speaker 1I don't know whether Donald Trump will win , and the reason I say that is because they hate him so bad and they don't want him to win so badly . They're trying to throw him in jail , in prison . They're going to do everything they can . They will absolutely try to kill him . They absolutely will . His life is protected by the Lord and if anything happens to him , it will be because the Lord allowed it .
Speaker 1Whatever is happening with Donald Trump , he is a tool and people need to understand this . He is a tool in the hand of God and that makes you know who that makes mad . Generally Christians . Yeah , I know the secular people , the people that are rising up . Maybe they don't even go to church . They see that and they go . Yeah , absolutely , it looks that way . I can totally see that the church goes . How dare you say that he's a tool in the hand of God ? Well , he is and he's exposing and God is using him . So is he going to be swept into the White House ? He should be , and if he is not , I mean you will see great turbulence . A lot of things will happen . If he wins , you're going to see probably a civil war , because the ones who riot , the folks who burn cities down , that's the left , and when the left doesn't get their way , they go crazy and they go revolutionary and they don't care about law and you have enough judges that'll look the other way . And so I think that we are setting ourselves up for a battle for the country , a battle for the nation , and you and I know this .
Speaker 1We have prayed for a long time that God would have mercy on America . We have , and I remember growing up as a kid attending Washington for Jesus I think it was 88 . And being on the Washington Mall as a kid and prayed all night . It was a 24-hour prayer group . It was a million Christians gathered on the mall praying for America , praying for revival . President Ronald Reagan at the time gave a videotaped message . It was just an awesome thing . I've been a part of praying for America .
Speaker 1God have mercy on America . He has sent us not just Donald Trump , but we are in a generational shift and change right now and we are joining in battle and people don't need to wake up . We are having this right now . What do you need to do ? You need to pray . You need to get your life right . We've talked about this before . You need to get informed . You don't need to get down in the dumps or go down every rabbit hole . You don't need to know every evil , wicked thing that's going on out there . Just understand . It is wicked and evil and they are trying to destroy us , but God is on the case , he is fighting , he is using Donald Trump , and God has something yet to be said about what is happening here , and that's what I want to be a part of and that's what I want to see . And even if Donald Trump does not win , I'm telling you the kingdom of God in America is going to advance . It will .
Speaker 2That's no doubt . That's no doubt .
Speaker 1Anyway , that's my two cents so let me take you back .
Speaker 2So you've said a couple good things through there , so this is something I've said for a long time and I know it's a little bit controversial , but I really think that if you're going in and you're voting and you're going and picking a straight ticket , I think it's lazy , I'm sorry . I'm sorry , just as Andrew just said . I mean , you have to pick the right man , the right woman for the job and there are rights and wrongs on both sides and I think that's really important . I know that was very early on in what you were talking about , but I feel like it's really important to say is that you need to get educated and make the decision and don't just pick a straight ticket , because I really think it . I just I feel like it's a lazy thing to do . But here's the thing I fully believe exactly what you said and I think and I'm excited for that , I'm excited for that day when God really shows what he wants done here .
Speaker 1Yeah , well , I think he's doing it now to an extent , and that's the thing . Are we paying attention ? Because when Donald Trump came around the first time , god was moved . I mean I am not deifying Donald Trump , he is . I mean I hope he's a Christian . He may not even be a Christian , I know he says Christian things at times , but he also cusses and he's had a sordid past . I mean I'm not lifting him up to the place of saying he's so holy , god is using him . That's not what I'm saying . I'm saying he is a vessel that God has specifically raised up right now In the Bible . This is the thing . These Christians have all been out of shape need to start reading their Bibles . No-transcript . God used him , raised him up and anointed him . The Holy Spirit came upon him and he would tear the Philistines physically . I mean , all of the heroes of the Bible were all flawed people .
Speaker 2They're all flawed . Yes .
Speaker 1And so we'll have that discussion at another time . But God is moving . Sometimes we really don't like what we see when he does move . Sometimes we really don't like what we see when he does move , because the Bible says there's darkness and wind and clouds and things that precede the movement of the Lord . I mean when God moves it's not always , you know , roses and peaches and , and I mean it's true , and so I mean
Flag Controversy and Political Campaigns
Speaker 1the Lord .
Speaker 1In my opinion , my humble opinion , I believe the Lord moved during the Civil War period . I believe from the crying out of all of the slavery and the slaves that cried out and also the Christians that cried out Lord , deliver this country from slavery . God moved , he powerfully moved . We lost 500,000 men in that war . It was a horrific rending of the country , but it was the move of God . We don't like that .
Speaker 1But I think we're coming into another period . I'm not saying we're going to lose that many people or that kind of a thing , but I am saying it may not be a bunch of tent meetings and we're all singing kumbaya . There may be some fire that we have to go through to save the country and to save the souls of this country , and that's the thing . We're a platform from the kingdom of God around the world and we have ceased becoming that and I don't think God's gonna allow us to continue to speak out . I mean , we put the gay flag and the pride flag on every embassy in every country . We are sending that out as our gospel message . Now is homosexuality and sexual perversion . That is the message of America . If you ask other nations now , god is not going to allow that to continue . We've said a lot here in a short period of time .
Speaker 2Yeah , you got really worked up . Yeah , I know , but I like it .
Speaker 1Well , it's been a month , so there we go , All right , so let's change real quick . Let's talk a light subject here the Terre Haute flag . Have you seen it ?
Speaker 2Yes , I have .
Speaker 1Okay , what's your thoughts ?
Speaker 2All right , so Did okay , what ? What's your like ? What's your thoughts ? All right , so did you know we had a city flag ? I didn't I knew there , I knew they were working on it I didn't even know I had to do they're working on it ? Uh , we had a city flag before . It was very generic . It was white , said some things on it , remember . So this is tarahoe had a logo for a while , a level above , yeah , but that's not the flag they did a flag .
Speaker 1It was like but I mean the logo , I they did a flag . It was like the seal or something .
Speaker 2I know , but anyway , honestly , I like the colors of the flag .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's blue , and Gold , gold and it's got a Okay .
Speaker 2I mean nobody's going to .
Speaker 1Here's the problem it's got a sycamore leaf on it . Yeah , but here's the problem there's not a stem on the leaf .
Speaker 2Which kind of I ? Here's the problem what is it ?
Speaker 1the first , I mean the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it , and it is what I've seen in comments over and over again it looks like a canadian flag , it looks like we are under canada . Now I get all the pieces . It's the sycamore , uh leaf .
Speaker 2It's the stars around it or where .
Speaker 1That's how many states there were at the time , in indiana , I mean , and the blue is the wabash River , which is a really funny one , because the Wabash River hasn't been blue in 100 years . But I get it and I don't care . I mean , does anybody care that much ? Well , honestly , andrew , I think , there's , but they had controversy over it .
Speaker 2Well , who did .
Speaker 1Well , so parts of Brandon Sackman's administration got up to protest it being accepted .
Speaker 2Yeah , but here's the whole thing . This is what we have to realize . Yeah , like Some people have nothing else to do .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's it I mean honestly you know , we Right honestly we follow Jesus Christ .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , okay , and we're pretty serious about that , right , and that actually is a path that we're on , that we grow in , and we grow in If we didn't have that .
Speaker 1No , I'm serious , we might get sidetracked on a flag . Oh my gosh , I would . I bet you would be fired up about a flag .
Speaker 2You'd be up there in the front . If you didn't have it hey , we know Canadians you would be mad about it . I would .
Speaker 1I'm telling you , praise the Lord , praise the Lord , you've got the Lord . It does look like a Canadian flag , though . It does , and that's the thing . Nobody outside of Darrow is going to understand that that's a college logo , in my opinion , college logo , isu right .
Speaker 2Oh for the Sycamores , yeah .
Speaker 1But why would you do that ? I mean , okay , you've got St Mary of the Woods , you've got rose holman , they're all in vigo county . Why are you putting sycamores as the center of their first of all and second of all , they're not the center of our community . I love isu , that's fine , yeah , but tarot's the center of this community , not not a college .
Speaker 2That I think they should , I think we really should are we a college flag ?
Speaker 1is that the college flag ?
Speaker 2why don't we play off the college flag ? Why don't we play off the name High Ground ?
Speaker 1Why don't we ?
Speaker 2play off of High Ground . I don't understand , because a French person sees Terre Haute oh , high Ground . I mean we just call it Terre Haute . You know , when you try to tell somebody where you live , they say you live in Terre Haute . That's kind of funny . Why don't we play off a high ground and do it .
Speaker 1I know , I don't know . I didn't even know we had a city flag . Honestly , I was shocked . It'll fly in front of the courthouse , no one will care . No one cares .
Speaker 2Well , the next revolutionary will change it .
Speaker 1It does kind of look like Canada conquered Terre Haute . I'm sorry , Well French . Yeah well , it's kind of funny .
Speaker 2Anyway , oh , yeah , I mean Anyway .
Speaker 1Okay , so let's see .
Speaker 2Oh hey , andrea and I are delegates and we are going to the convention this Saturday . I bet you're voting for yes .
Speaker 1So when this airs and I will talk about that so when this airs we will have already voted and everyone will already know . So Andrea and I are going to vote for Micah Beckwith . He has been running for the Lute and this really it's the only race that is contested , it's the only issue you go there for at this point and I am grateful he's running , if for nothing else , to give you purpose for going . Yeah , we had to pay $150 a person to go and I didn't realize that when I put my name on the ballot $150 a person to go and I didn't realize that when I put my name on the ballot . So I might have reconsidered that . But maybe God's got a purpose in it . I hope he does so .
Speaker 1Micah Beckwith pastor in Noblesville area , I believe , running . He's a Christian activist . I've heard him speak . He's excellent . He's like , honestly , kind of a Reagan conservative . He's just a very solid conservative , pro family , just a great guy , very articulate .
Speaker 1So he's been running for lieutenant governor because the way it's always worked in the past is that the governor who wins , the candidate who wins in the primary to run for governor for the state of Indiana , then , after they win the primary then gets to quote pick their choice for Lieutenant governor . There's generally zero controversy , there's zero competition and the convention is basically just a rubber stamp . That that's the way it's always been . That's not the rules , and so he took advantage of that and and I think there was a lot of challenge to maybe they're going to change the rules to keep him out , and eventually they decided not to .
Speaker 1And the reality is , this is a fight between establishment and not necessarily an anti-Bron thing . This is a fight between we're tired of always having these candidates shoved down our throats and the establishment wants control . They want to tell us who to vote for and that's it . And so we have a choice and they're upset about it . So fine , um , so he not . He nominated um julie mcguire , and julie's got an interesting history and story and so this is who's going against Mike .
Speaker 2This is who .
Speaker 1Mike Braun picked for Lieutenant Governor , and this is who's been sending . I got 30 postcards at my house the other day , all at the same time , of all these politicians that look like they're I mean , I'm in the printing world , I know how this works , but it looks like handwriting on the it's not , but whatever , it's all these folks , folks , and they're all endorsing her and she's great and we should all get on board . Well , she may be a great person . I don't know . I don't know her well , but I will tell you this she doesn't have a very long resume at all . She's been a state rep for one term and she was the lady that the establishment Republican house here in Indiana poured half a million dollars into her campaign to beat a Democrat .
Speaker 1No to beat another Republican because they didn't like how radical he was on abortion .
Speaker 2Oh , I know this one . Yeah , yes , so she's from- . We've talked about him before .
Speaker 1She's from the Greenwood area and again , I am not on board with necessarily his tactics . The former state rep and I can't remember his name offhand , but that was odious to me , the fact that they spent half a million dollars to defeat somebody in their own party . That they thought was just a little too radical . I'm sorry , the Indiana Republicans , the conservatives , they kind of need radical because they're not radical and they're in power . They have super majorities in both chambers .
Speaker 1They really kind of need some people that are going to push them to the right . So I didn't like that at all . I didn't like how that was handled . So that's her , that's who he's picked .
Speaker 2Kind of sounds like she's the establishment .
Speaker 1Well , it does , they put a bunch of money into her .
Speaker 2It sounds like she's pretty indebted to them . Well , yeah , half a million dollars .
Speaker 1So , yeah , yeah . So it's Mike Braun , julie McGuire . We're supposed to all stand up and go yeah and vote for her , which we are not . I think she still wins because I think the establishment has the numbers . Wins because I think the establishment has the numbers If , if .
Speaker 2I if , if I go with my gut , I don't .
Speaker 1I don't think Micah wins .
Speaker 2I don't you mean at the convention , they held the numbers . I think so . Yeah , I think so .
Speaker 1But I could be wrong , because I mean , we got Diego Morales against the establishment last time . We got Daniel Elliott against the establishment . Last time those two candidates were , were , were the establishment did not want them , fought them , didn't want them at all , they squeaked by , but both of them won . Now in , in fairness , diego won pretty handily , and that that was a multiple factors . Both of them now have come out and endorsed Julie . So you're like okay , so you're an anti-establishment , the , the , the base supports you , and then you turn around and you endorse the establishment candidate . I just I feel like anybody that gets in there . It's just always they get turned up yeah .
Speaker 1So that should be exciting . So so the next podcast we'll maybe talk about that , maybe , maybe something will happen . I don't know .
Speaker 2So they do like an oral vote , like yay , and then , actual , there will be a real vote . Oh yeah , we go into booths , you're going to be boothing it because it's going to be that close . Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1And it's an all-day thing and we have to get up at 630 in the morning to make it to about three , 30 .
Speaker 2And this is this coming Saturday . Yeah , yeah , the day before father's day .
Speaker 1Yeah , isn't that great . Well , actually , I kind of enjoy that . But I will say this I probably shouldn't say this on on air , but I'm going to . I have gotten so and let's , let's talk about sports here in a minute , but I have gotten . I've gotten so not disillusioned , I'm just so done with politics . I've gotten so not disillusioned , I'm just so done with politics . And I know , I ran for office twice and I , I know about it , I care about it to a certain extent . I'm always going to vote , I'm always going to be informed . Yes , jimmy , I am just fed up with the Republicans in this state . I just feel like they're , I just feel like they're welcome . Yeah .
Speaker 2I just , you know , I just feel like they're .
Speaker 1Andrew , welcome . Yeah , I just Welcome to the team . Now we're going to do a podcast and I'm going to talk about the spiritual forces behind the two political parties , and I know I've mentioned this before , but I think we need to talk about it again because it will explain why I have an issue with the Republicans and why I have an issue , obviously , with the Democrats . But the Democrats are , at least you know , they're at least out there Democrats , but the Democrats are , at least you know , they're at least out there . I mean they , you know whatever .
Speaker 2Let's , let's let's oh yeah , I know where you're going . Let's move on . I know where you're going with that one , all right .
Speaker 1Okay , so , uh
Sports Drama and Diversity in Athletics
Speaker 1. So your boy , tom Brady , uh gave a speech .
Speaker 2This is not my boy I thought you were a Patriot fan . Everybody knows better okay it might have been me , indiana , obsessed with tom brady no , I am a new england patriot fan .
Speaker 1Tom brady just happened to lead us to greatness over and over and over and over again . Lead us like you're on the team . Yeah , you know what people ? Uh , that is the one comment that people got really mad at . When I say we , when I talk about the patriots , and it's it's like you're not on the team , you have nothing to do . But every real sports fan understands that , right , am I ?
Speaker 2am I off on that ?
Speaker 1I've never thought I was on the Cubs 2016 team , but if I'm talking to you , so it's Cubs is a big deal to you . Yeah . So if I'm talking to you about the Cubs and you and you're telling me going to say , well , our lineup , the way our lineup was , I'll say the cubs lineup you'll say the cubs lineup wasn't good . You'll say not our manager , the manager no , because I have .
Speaker 2No , I have no ability to change the lineup okay all right , all right , so okay .
Speaker 1So let's , we're gonna have to wrap up shortly . Uh , I'm getting the notice , but I still want to talk about Tom Brady .
Speaker 2I think we're out of time for Tom Brady .
Speaker 1I'm sure you are this is all I'm going to say about Tom Brady . Go look at it . It was a speech for Hall of Fame for the Patriots not the actual Hall of Fame , which , of course , he'll be first ballot when that happens , but anyway , it was a great line about working hard and how kids need to play football . Just because it's hard and life is hard , get prepared for it , and I thought it was pretty inspirational . I thought it was great . So go look it up if you care . Caitlin Clark man , that's an Indiana story that is national right now .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's . Unfortunately . I watched a couple videos , yeah , playing , and now my entire feed is full of wmba and I have . I have no stock in the wmba but it's really hard to let this go . It's just like . It's like a soap opera and they're loving it because I think , what were they ? I mean the first nine games . How many of them sold out ?
Speaker 1yeah and she's the real deal , she's really good , she's the real deal . She's the reason why the ticket sales are up and viewership is up and they have treated her like trash and and it is . I mean , it's bad . It's not just on the on the court which has been bad , but they snubbed her from the olympic team , which is hilarious , because nobody I mean it's just , it's business 101 and they're they don't care , because they don't like her , because she's white , she's , she's not a lesbian , I don't know that .
Speaker 2And she's good no , this is absolutely true the wnba is completely , completely run by DEI , completely . Okay , maybe no , it's completely . But here's the deal . Yeah , the better storyline is . It's not all of that . But if they get behind her they're not going to . But if they did , they wouldn't sell tickets and they wouldn't have people's feed going the way mine is going . It's making news . What ?
Speaker 1That she's being treated poorly or that she's yes , absolutely no , no , that's going to get old real fast .
Speaker 2No , no , it won't , because people keep watching . It's like a soap opera . They keep sucking a minute For a little while .
Speaker 1But that's not why they're doing it . I , but that's not why they're doing it . I mean , you got to be kidding . No , called her to the B word , ran up and slammed her to the ground . I bet they do that it was like , but I bet they do that to all I bet they do it to all of them ?
Speaker 2No , they don't . They don't , are you telling ? Me that you got those women and they don't do that to each other .
Speaker 1All highly competitive Women are the nast .
Speaker 2Well , I'm just saying that it's getting a lot of she's coming in as being this and she's tough , right , but she's coming in like she's getting picked on . She is though .
Speaker 1I mean , I sit there and watch her .
Speaker 2I watch her first game , I mean , they all probably get hazed initially . There's certainly going to be an element of that absolutely . Well , I mean , her dad was in the crowd one time , yeah , and he told her to stop being a baby . Yeah , I mean stop whining .
Speaker 1She's gonna have to . But and I mean I remember michael jordan , just you know , for for comparison , I mean they , the knicks , beat up on him constantly . They went right after him all the time , didn't matter matter , they were going to take him out . So there is some flattery , I guess , the fact that she's getting that attention . But I think as a league they've got to fix this . Nobody wants to see her treated with kid gloves and nobody wants to see her injured to the point she can't play and that's what's happening .
Speaker 2They stopped doing that to her . Nobody's watching the WNBA game . That's what's happening . They stopped doing that to her . Nobody's watching the WNBA game .
Speaker 1Well , they will if she scores 50 points . And that's what will happen . I don't know .
Speaker 2She's really good . I think that this sells more tickets than her scoring 50 points . I'm not going to see her get beat up .
Speaker 1I have to be honest , we had a great time going . We had a great time going . I've never seen it's super . Do you know how cheap it is to go to a WNBA game ?
Speaker 2Did you go to Fever .
Speaker 1Yes , I went to the game . It's like $2 . Yes , wow , yeah , she's really good , but they don't use her , right it's pretty stark .
Speaker 2I mean , andrew , they're like what ? 15 games in .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2She came hot out of college Like turn around here . You're now playing with the big girls .
Speaker 1They college like turn around here , You're now playing with the big girls . They're not that good , they're the worst . The Indiana fever is one of the worst teams in the league . Well , that's why they got the number one pick . They've gotten the number one pick two years in a row . Yeah , that tells you I mean and they're way better . They are headed to pick the number one pick . Again , I mean it's , it's , it's probably , it's probably coaching , I don't know .
Speaker 2When did the Patriots get the number one pick ? Weren't they pretty bad last year ?
Speaker 1No , they were bad . They got a number three and I will tell you this too I'm a Patriot fan and our coach , our head coach I'm going to make a prediction right now he's going to train wreck this team . He is DEI all over . It is really pathetic and it is disturbing to watch . He was a great Patriot player . I think he's a great player , and I have heard nothing but whining and racist kind of attitude .
Speaker 2What's DEI ? You've used it twice
Inclusivity and Merit-Based Hiring
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1Diversity , equity and inclusion . Okay . It's where you aren't hiring bases on merit . You're hiring bases on what victim status are you and we want to bring as much victim status people in you know ? That's how we hire , that's how we do , that's our thing , not merit-based Okay .
Speaker 2I'm not going into that one .
Speaker 1We have gone long enough . We'll do a whole podcast on that sometime .
Speaker 2No , we won't . That'll be exciting .
Speaker 1That'll be so exciting . I won , that was so exciting . I will be here for that one . Okay , folks , we want to thank you so much for watching this really long podcast . If you are still here , that is incredible and hopefully maybe Drew can cut some of this out . Probably you're not even going to hear this . Anyway , episode 26 in the books Great time talking with you .
Speaker 2Jimmy , it flew by .
Speaker 1Yeah , it really did . We had a great time . Maybe we should do some more often so we don't have such , you know , gab fest . But , um , please like , subscribe , please , uh , if you want to reach out to us , uh , for any reason . Obviously you can make comments in the youtube , uh , on the youtube channel , but if you want to send us an email , it's uh jimmy mc squared podcast at gmailcom the mc squared podcast at gmailcom , and we both actually have that on our phones .
Speaker 2yeah , so either one of us might answer you don't know , probably andrew because I just look at him and I'm like , yeah , maybe he'll answer that one , because they're usually no , we we appreciate anything you send in , we really do .
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