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Trump's Tax Proposal and the looming Convention fight| Episode #26
In this episode Jimmy and Andrew discuss Trump's Tax Proposal, the upcoming Republican convention and more.
Intro music by Upstate - How Far We Can Go
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Speaker 1:All right. So what do we want to tackle first? We want to jump right into the Trump conviction. We've got a Trump tax proposal that came out today. I thought was pretty exciting.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about that. Okay, yeah, I don't. The conviction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so it came out today, but it was actually, I guess, discussed possibly yesterday evening in a Republican conference, the big conference they were having. Trump was a part of it, obviously, and he proposed eliminating income taxes, federal income taxes in the United States, and he would supplement or use tariffs as a substitute. And what's interesting to me about this, being a student of history, is that this is actually the way the country was founded. That is exactly how we were set up tax-wise. The only way the federal government could raise taxes was tariffs and the president had that ability to do it. It goes back to I think there was Jefferson imposed tariffs and there were some other presidents that did it.
Speaker 1:It's an interesting thing because the concept and this is this is something Rush used to talk about always with unintended consequences from government policy, whatever they decide to do. I mean this is just as a rule whatever they're trying, whoever they're trying to help and whoever they're trying to punish doesn't matter. It usually works the opposite and it usually doesn't work ever like they think it's going to. So tariffs, theoretically, are supposed to take the money from foreign companies who are trying to import, trying to sell to Americans, so, like Trump did a tariff on Chinese imports, there was a tariff for a while on steel imports, and all of that is intended to help American industry. So if America is producing steel, then you put a tariff on foreign steel, so you're hoping that your steel companies will prosper in America. Well, that is the. That is the theory, and what actually happens every single time is it's actually and again, I'm 100% for this proposal but it is a tax on the American people. And why do you think that is Because we buy things.
Speaker 2:Yes, I mean, that's the whole reason.
Speaker 1:So who is hurt if your imported item is more expensive? It isn't.
Speaker 2:The buyer yes, it's us.
Speaker 1:And it's always a tax on us. But we have a choice. It's a sale, it's basically a sales tax, it works out to be a sales tax and it it's a choice. We have a choice. We know that this item is going to cost more, um, because of the tax, we, we don't have to buy it. We can buy it. We don't have to buy it with an income tax. You are working your, your rear end off. You are earning a? A, a salary or wage, uh, tips, whatever it is, you've worked for it, the government hasn't worked for it, it hasn't done anything for it, and it's taking 37, 40% of your paycheck and uh, and you have no choice. In fact, if you decide, uh, decide that you are not going to send them the money, they will come and take everything you own and garnish your wages for future repayment.
Speaker 2:So I like it. Okay, so explain this to me. I guess this might be a little bit more deep. So the tariff would be on any imports. So then companies would be paying a lot of tariff because if they had some type of material that was off, exactly, they would have to pay more, exactly. So even if it was a us company, then every everything across the board. Let's say our bag of cheetos, right, okay, it's going to go up for everybody, yes, now, but everybody is going to not have the income tax, so they're going to have more money in their pocket, correct. But everything else is going to go up. Everything in cost, yes, except if you produce it yourself, like if you are, yeah, so, theoretically, your steel producers.
Speaker 1:when they have a tariff on foreign steel, theoretically your steel producers will make more money. But you know what happens, because this is all market-driven supply and demand. Yeah, it is so. If you are a steel producer and your competitor is forced to raise their prices, what are you going to do? You're going to do better.
Speaker 2:You're going to raise your prices. You're right, because you're going to raise your prices right under them, absolutely Barely in their economy.
Speaker 1:So it always comes back to, the American people will pay more Tariffs, not necessarily a great long-term solution. Getting rid of the income tax is absolutely phenomenal and it is a conservative idea that the Republican Party long abandoned, but Ronald Reagan would have been for this. This is conservatism 101. The income tax. Do you know the history of the income tax? I don't, oh gosh.
Speaker 1:So back in the turn of the 20th century, so 19,. I feel like this was like 1917-ish, I think. That's when the income tax and we had to pass an amendment to allow it and again, I didn't do my homework, so I don't know the exact amendment, but this was at the same time that they removed the election of senators by your state legislator and they turned it to be a populist vote. So that sounds like a great idea, but it was actually a way of reducing the authority and power of the state, which is what the Constitution, what our republic, is built on, anyway. So they instituted an income tax and the argument? It was big, big controversy at the time, but the argument was for heaven's sakes, people, the government will never take more than like a 9%. I mean, 9% is probably ridiculous, but it would never go as high as what God requires, which is 10%, so we will always, as the government, be below. I mean, that was literally, that was the, that was the thing, and, of course, the government government be below.
Speaker 1:I mean, that was literally the thing and of course the government was lying, like they always are, and we have seen absolute confiscation of American wages and the American wage. The power of the American dollar in the pocket of the working man has just depleted ever since that time. So I am 100% for getting rid of the income tax.
Speaker 2:So tell me, tell me how this affects, just if we look down downstream, joe Smith and you know he works makes $35,000 a year. Yeah, okay, and he's got a family and let's say his wife stays at home, so $35,000, that's very, I mean, that's rough, okay, but let's compare that to Bobby, who's making $350,000 a year.
Speaker 1:So this is where when the rubber meets the road. This is where the class warfare that has already been propagated in America the Marxists have taken over our economic thought process here would go wild. And this is the real battle. What you hit on is exactly the real battle, because the truth is a guy making $35,000 a year with four kids at home isn't paying any federal taxes. Okay, so he sees no change to his income. The guy making $200,000, he's got two kids is going to see his income probably 40% increase in his income, in his take-home income. You are talking, you're going to have to sell the American people on what it will do for our economy. It will explode it. We will see prosperity like you have never seen if we got rid of the income tax but how it's going to be spun is what it's going to.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah yeah, it's going to help the rich person. Yeah, absolutely, yeah it's. I mean, it's absolutely not fair, right? Why should we be taking more money from somebody who's producing? I have have no idea, but that's the world we live in. So I think the political reality might be tough, but it is the fair, proper and best economic solution we could possibly have is to get rid of the income tax and also get rid of property taxes. I hate property taxes.
Speaker 2:It's confiscation of land that you own? Don't you think this should be some type of incremental thing, where they do one and see how it works and then do another?
Speaker 1:Well, we know there's already states with no income taxes and they prosper Florida, Texas, there may be a couple others.
Speaker 2:They have no income tax. In Florida they have property tax though.
Speaker 1:Well, I think everybody has property tax. Everybody loves that idea of property tax. They love the idea of redistributing that wealth, because that's what it is. You have these farmers that have accumulated 1,000 acres and it's difficult because they own so much land. The government sees them as filthy rich which they're not. Filthy rich which they're not. Same thing with large houses handing down an inheritance to your kids or any of those things. The government is looking to basically take money where it has no business taking money and it's all in an effort to kind of level. We call level the playing field, but it's actually just expand the misery for everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's all it does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So anyway, I think it's a great idea, I think it's a conservative idea, I think it makes sense and I think I think it'd be well-received whether it actually happens.
Speaker 2:I don't think it'll go. Yeah, unfortunately, but anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so let's talk about the Trump conviction. What did you think? Were you there? When did you hear about it? I wasn't there. You weren't there.
Speaker 2:I haven't watched it much, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1:When you found out about it. When was that?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I've heard a little bit about it, but I've not been super involved with it. I don't, like I said, man, I don't get super worked up about. Well, that's good, I'll give you. I heard a little bit about it, so I've got a little bit of a take and I'm just going to throw it out. And I think it has a lot to do with my area, too, of medicine, as I think that there are so many strongholds in this country that we believe as truths, and many of them are being exposed, and I'll start with medicine and what happened in 2020. So I think there's a ton of exposure there, and I think that there's a lot of smoke and mirrors that are there that have been exposed, and I think that our judicial system is also the exact same way. I think that there's these things that we think that we hold to, that are going to be truthful, that are going to be whatever, and we can trust.
Speaker 2:yeah, and they're broken and I actually kind of and I hate to say this, but I mean, I think we should have our trust in one thing, and it's just being exposed and exposed more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I think you hit that nail on the head. That's, that's a great take, because the reality is they didn't. They didn't deal any serious damage to Donald Trump. No, they dealt maybe fatal damage to the trust of the American people in their judicial system. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it became crystal clear throughout the trial, if you were paying attention to any of the details that came out, not not only was it completely compromised and completely rigged and completely set up, the the charges themselves, that all of it was just it was out of the pages of the communists in Soviet Russia when they would have these show trials, it was literally out of those books. I mean it was. And so when the verdict was reached immediately, which was ridiculous and convicted on all counts, and just you know, 34 counts, whatever I think there, initially at the time I was way more angry than I thought I would be. I was actually very angry and very concerned for my country and very concerned for my country. I felt deeply disturbed about where we were heading as a country, more than I was before. But since then, because it's been a little while I mean obviously folks are watching this it's going to have been maybe a month since it happened.
Speaker 1:In retrospect, I have to say I have seen what appears to be a tidal wave of opinion shift, not just towards Trump but against the erosion of what was America. Yeah, we used to be able to count on, even if you had, every once in a while a corrupt judge or a judge that got it wrong or a jury that got it wrong you could depend on. Well, they're going to get it right, because there's enough good, law-abiding, god-fearing people in the judicial system who will make a decision not based on politics or whether they like the man, but on legal precedent and what's good for the defendant and what's good for the country and what's right, what's lawful, and I don't think we believe that that is going to be the case anymore. I mean again, I hate to beat a dead horse, but the proof of a stolen election in 2020 is still coming out. It was overwhelming and not a single judge would touch it with a 10-foot pole. I mean, that was our recourse that the judicial system would review, it, would take a look at. No, it wasn't going to happen. So Trump raised, I think, $100 million in 48 hours. He had a massive amount of new donors that poured in.
Speaker 1:I have heard so many movie stars, people that we, you know models, I mean just you know all kinds of secular people, the folks that have had nothing to do with politics, saying we've had it. We are going to support Donald Trump and I didn't support him before, I don't even like him, but this cannot stand. You had the Dr Phil interview just shortly afterwards and that was phenomenal. I watched parts of it, some excerpts of it, but it was when Dr Phil talked about that they were banned off of TikTok because they tried to do a promo for the show and they wouldn't allow it because Donald Trump was in it, that there was a gasp in the audience and then people began to have, I think, almost the blinders coming off their eyes to realize we are not being allowed to know what is happening here, and that cannot be.
Speaker 1:It has nothing to do with whether Donald Trump and here's the dumb thing, jimmy look at the politics of Donald Trump and they are actually not very radical. No, yeah, they aren't. I mean he's like obey the laws we already have immigration laws on the book, books, shut the border, like what our law says to do. I mean he isn't rewriting new laws, it's just literally upholding them. Make America great again. Well, that's a horrible, that's a radical I mean idea.
Speaker 2:Whoever wants their nation to be great Inflammatory statement oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:So his actual politics are not radical, but he's not purchased or a part of the establishment, and that's what terrifies them. So I think we should talk about I mean, I think we should what do you think is going to happen? Because there's a lot of folks that are right now saying Biden's at a 37% approval rating. The momentum is all Donald Trump. It is all Donald Trump. It does not matter what the secular media has done. He is picking up steam everywhere he goes. He's going to win in a landslide. Do you think he's going to win in a landslide?
Speaker 2:Well, I think he won a landslide in the previous election.
Speaker 1:personally, Okay, so that got stolen. So what changed? What has changed since then?
Speaker 2:Well, unfortunately, nothing has changed and I believe that our election system was also one of those strongholds that we held to that. No, this will be figured out in the election system and that was kind of one in the election system. Yeah, and that was kind of one of the first things to break. Well, I mean, the medical system broke, the election system broke. Yeah, I mean in the last four years. Think about all the distrust now that's slowly seeping out of these strongholds that we have seen as, like you know, these are truths in our country.
Speaker 1:These are institutions in our country.
Speaker 2:These are institutions in our country. I heard an interesting and I don't. I mean he went on a landslide, yeah, he should, yes, so. But I heard an interesting thing every time the enemy comes at harder, they get penalized or they get pushed down even more. The stronger the attacks get, the greater the enemy is losing. And so I heard this from Johnny Enloe and he actually related it back to Pharaoh. I mean, you've probably heard this, I'm sure you've probably heard this analogy before.
Speaker 2:But it's. I mean, let my when Moses let the people go, and every time he said, oh yeah, I'm going to do this, and didn't? It got worse? And it got go. Yeah. And every time he said, oh yeah, I'm going to do this, and didn't. Yeah, it got worse. Yeah, and it got worse. Yes, and it got worse and it got worse. And now that looks really familiar to what's going on now. I mean, everything seems like the next attack and it gets worse. But when do they get to go? And will we be a part of that? Right, that's what I want to be a part of Well, think about it for a minute.
Speaker 1:So you've got in Egypt and you've got the children of Israel, so you've got the people who are captive, and you have the government or the leadership that are the oppressors, and God's dealing with the oppressors in that story. I think it's very similar here. I honestly believe in this. This may be news for somebody here, and I think this is a really important and good point. It is not, and it hasn't been for a while, about Democrat versus Republican. It is about elitists and it is about the people. Those are the. Those are actually the battle lines and that's why you see a lot of Republican leaders that are angry and they don't like that.
Speaker 1:Donald Trump's popular. That's right. They don't like it. When we go off the reservation and I mean they are totally if this comes, if he wins in a landslide, he wins the house and he wins the senate and he proposes that the, that the income tax, it will be republicans that sabotage it. Yeah, it won't be democrats. Democrats are a very unfortunately. I mean don't like it. I don't agree with that. They stand, but they're extremely principled. They're marxists and if it isn't marxism, they're not voting for it. I mean, you know what they're going to do. Republicans act like and talk like they're conservative, but they are not.
Speaker 1:Generally, the ones in power are, for them, staying in power, and anytime that looks like the masses are waking up and starting to figure out something's not right. We've been electing these same people over and over again and nothing is getting done. Nothing that, oh, they're mad. They're mad about this and they're mad about that, and they don't do anything about it. We're just being fooled, and I do believe the positive side of this is that God has used Donald Trump to wake us up, and what I saw happen after that verdict of 34 counts was an awakening of people that have said I don't like politics, I'm sick of all of them. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I saw something switch where there was almost the attitude of yeah, but this is our country and no politician is going to destroy it, no judge is going to destroy it. No entertainment industry is going to destroy it. No, no false election is going to destroy it. We have got to stand up and I do believe this that we have one chance, jimmy, to get this right. It is this time Now.
Speaker 1:I don't know whether Donald Trump will win, and the reason I say that is because they hate him so bad and they don't want him to win so badly. They're trying to throw him in jail, in prison. They're going to do everything they can. They will absolutely try to kill him. They absolutely will. His life is protected by the Lord and if anything happens to him, it will be because the Lord allowed it.
Speaker 1:Whatever is happening with Donald Trump, he is a tool and people need to understand this. He is a tool in the hand of God and that makes you know who that makes mad. Generally Christians. Yeah, I know the secular people, the people that are rising up. Maybe they don't even go to church. They see that and they go. Yeah, absolutely, it looks that way. I can totally see that the church goes. How dare you say that he's a tool in the hand of God? Well, he is and he's exposing and God is using him. So is he going to be swept into the White House? He should be, and if he is not, I mean you will see great turbulence. A lot of things will happen. If he wins, you're going to see probably a civil war, because the ones who riot, the folks who burn cities down, that's the left, and when the left doesn't get their way, they go crazy and they go revolutionary and they don't care about law and you have enough judges that'll look the other way. And so I think that we are setting ourselves up for a battle for the country, a battle for the nation, and you and I know this.
Speaker 1:We have prayed for a long time that God would have mercy on America. We have, and I remember growing up as a kid attending Washington for Jesus I think it was 88. And being on the Washington Mall as a kid and prayed all night. It was a 24-hour prayer group. It was a million Christians gathered on the mall praying for America, praying for revival. President Ronald Reagan at the time gave a videotaped message. It was just an awesome thing. I've been a part of praying for America.
Speaker 1:God have mercy on America. He has sent us not just Donald Trump, but we are in a generational shift and change right now and we are joining in battle and people don't need to wake up. We are having this right now. What do you need to do? You need to pray. You need to get your life right. We've talked about this before. You need to get informed. You don't need to get down in the dumps or go down every rabbit hole. You don't need to know every evil, wicked thing that's going on out there. Just understand. It is wicked and evil and they are trying to destroy us, but God is on the case, he is fighting, he is using Donald Trump, and God has something yet to be said about what is happening here, and that's what I want to be a part of and that's what I want to see. And even if Donald Trump does not win, I'm telling you the kingdom of God in America is going to advance. It will.
Speaker 2:That's no doubt. That's no doubt.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that's my two cents so let me take you back.
Speaker 2:So you've said a couple good things through there, so this is something I've said for a long time and I know it's a little bit controversial, but I really think that if you're going in and you're voting and you're going and picking a straight ticket, I think it's lazy, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, just as Andrew just said. I mean, you have to pick the right man, the right woman for the job and there are rights and wrongs on both sides and I think that's really important. I know that was very early on in what you were talking about, but I feel like it's really important to say is that you need to get educated and make the decision and don't just pick a straight ticket, because I really think it. I just I feel like it's a lazy thing to do. But here's the thing I fully believe exactly what you said and I think and I'm excited for that, I'm excited for that day when God really shows what he wants done here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I think he's doing it now to an extent, and that's the thing. Are we paying attention? Because when Donald Trump came around the first time, god was moved. I mean I am not deifying Donald Trump, he is. I mean I hope he's a Christian. He may not even be a Christian, I know he says Christian things at times, but he also cusses and he's had a sordid past. I mean I'm not lifting him up to the place of saying he's so holy, god is using him. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he is a vessel that God has specifically raised up right now In the Bible. This is the thing. These Christians have all been out of shape need to start reading their Bibles. No-transcript. God used him, raised him up and anointed him. The Holy Spirit came upon him and he would tear the Philistines physically. I mean, all of the heroes of the Bible were all flawed people.
Speaker 2:They're all flawed. Yes.
Speaker 1:And so we'll have that discussion at another time. But God is moving. Sometimes we really don't like what we see when he does move. Sometimes we really don't like what we see when he does move, because the Bible says there's darkness and wind and clouds and things that precede the movement of the Lord. I mean when God moves it's not always, you know, roses and peaches and, and I mean it's true, and so I mean the Lord.
Speaker 1:In my opinion, my humble opinion, I believe the Lord moved during the Civil War period. I believe from the crying out of all of the slavery and the slaves that cried out and also the Christians that cried out Lord, deliver this country from slavery. God moved, he powerfully moved. We lost 500,000 men in that war. It was a horrific rending of the country, but it was the move of God. We don't like that.
Speaker 1:But I think we're coming into another period. I'm not saying we're going to lose that many people or that kind of a thing, but I am saying it may not be a bunch of tent meetings and we're all singing kumbaya. There may be some fire that we have to go through to save the country and to save the souls of this country, and that's the thing. We're a platform from the kingdom of God around the world and we have ceased becoming that and I don't think God's gonna allow us to continue to speak out. I mean, we put the gay flag and the pride flag on every embassy in every country. We are sending that out as our gospel message. Now is homosexuality and sexual perversion. That is the message of America. If you ask other nations now, god is not going to allow that to continue. We've said a lot here in a short period of time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got really worked up. Yeah, I know, but I like it.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been a month, so there we go, All right, so let's change real quick. Let's talk a light subject here the Terre Haute flag. Have you seen it?
Speaker 2:Yes, I have.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2:All right, so Did okay, what? What's your like? What's your thoughts? All right, so did you know we had a city flag? I didn't I knew there, I knew they were working on it I didn't even know I had to do they're working on it? Uh, we had a city flag before. It was very generic. It was white, said some things on it, remember. So this is tarahoe had a logo for a while, a level above, yeah, but that's not the flag they did a flag.
Speaker 1:It was like but I mean the logo, I they did a flag. It was like the seal or something.
Speaker 2:I know, but anyway, honestly, I like the colors of the flag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's blue, and Gold, gold and it's got a Okay.
Speaker 2:I mean nobody's going to.
Speaker 1:Here's the problem it's got a sycamore leaf on it. Yeah, but here's the problem there's not a stem on the leaf.
Speaker 2:Which kind of I? Here's the problem what is it?
Speaker 1:the first, I mean the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it, and it is what I've seen in comments over and over again it looks like a canadian flag, it looks like we are under canada. Now I get all the pieces. It's the sycamore, uh leaf.
Speaker 2:It's the stars around it or where.
Speaker 1:That's how many states there were at the time, in indiana, I mean, and the blue is the wabash River, which is a really funny one, because the Wabash River hasn't been blue in 100 years. But I get it and I don't care. I mean, does anybody care that much? Well, honestly, andrew, I think, there's, but they had controversy over it.
Speaker 2:Well, who did.
Speaker 1:Well, so parts of Brandon Sackman's administration got up to protest it being accepted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but here's the whole thing. This is what we have to realize. Yeah, like Some people have nothing else to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it I mean honestly you know, we Right honestly we follow Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay, and we're pretty serious about that, right, and that actually is a path that we're on, that we grow in, and we grow in If we didn't have that.
Speaker 1:No, I'm serious, we might get sidetracked on a flag. Oh my gosh, I would. I bet you would be fired up about a flag.
Speaker 2:You'd be up there in the front. If you didn't have it hey, we know Canadians you would be mad about it. I would.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, praise the Lord, praise the Lord, you've got the Lord. It does look like a Canadian flag, though. It does, and that's the thing. Nobody outside of Darrow is going to understand that that's a college logo, in my opinion, college logo, isu right.
Speaker 2:Oh for the Sycamores, yeah.
Speaker 1:But why would you do that? I mean, okay, you've got St Mary of the Woods, you've got rose holman, they're all in vigo county. Why are you putting sycamores as the center of their first of all and second of all, they're not the center of our community. I love isu, that's fine, yeah, but tarot's the center of this community, not not a college.
Speaker 2:That I think they should, I think we really should are we a college flag?
Speaker 1:is that the college flag?
Speaker 2:why don't we play off the college flag? Why don't we play off the name High Ground?
Speaker 1:Why don't we?
Speaker 2:play off of High Ground. I don't understand, because a French person sees Terre Haute oh, high Ground. I mean we just call it Terre Haute. You know, when you try to tell somebody where you live, they say you live in Terre Haute. That's kind of funny. Why don't we play off a high ground and do it.
Speaker 1:I know, I don't know. I didn't even know we had a city flag. Honestly, I was shocked. It'll fly in front of the courthouse, no one will care. No one cares.
Speaker 2:Well, the next revolutionary will change it.
Speaker 1:It does kind of look like Canada conquered Terre Haute. I'm sorry, Well French. Yeah well, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2:Anyway, oh, yeah, I mean Anyway.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's see.
Speaker 2:Oh hey, andrea and I are delegates and we are going to the convention this Saturday. I bet you're voting for yes.
Speaker 1:So when this airs and I will talk about that so when this airs we will have already voted and everyone will already know. So Andrea and I are going to vote for Micah Beckwith. He has been running for the Lute and this really it's the only race that is contested, it's the only issue you go there for at this point and I am grateful he's running, if for nothing else, to give you purpose for going. Yeah, we had to pay $150 a person to go and I didn't realize that when I put my name on the ballot $150 a person to go and I didn't realize that when I put my name on the ballot. So I might have reconsidered that. But maybe God's got a purpose in it. I hope he does so.
Speaker 1:Micah Beckwith pastor in Noblesville area, I believe, running. He's a Christian activist. I've heard him speak. He's excellent. He's like, honestly, kind of a Reagan conservative. He's just a very solid conservative, pro family, just a great guy, very articulate.
Speaker 1:So he's been running for lieutenant governor because the way it's always worked in the past is that the governor who wins, the candidate who wins in the primary to run for governor for the state of Indiana, then, after they win the primary then gets to quote pick their choice for Lieutenant governor. There's generally zero controversy, there's zero competition and the convention is basically just a rubber stamp. That that's the way it's always been. That's not the rules, and so he took advantage of that and and I think there was a lot of challenge to maybe they're going to change the rules to keep him out, and eventually they decided not to.
Speaker 1:And the reality is, this is a fight between establishment and not necessarily an anti-Bron thing. This is a fight between we're tired of always having these candidates shoved down our throats and the establishment wants control. They want to tell us who to vote for and that's it. And so we have a choice and they're upset about it. So fine, um, so he not. He nominated um julie mcguire, and julie's got an interesting history and story and so this is who's going against Mike.
Speaker 2:This is who.
Speaker 1:Mike Braun picked for Lieutenant Governor, and this is who's been sending. I got 30 postcards at my house the other day, all at the same time, of all these politicians that look like they're I mean, I'm in the printing world, I know how this works, but it looks like handwriting on the it's not, but whatever, it's all these folks, folks, and they're all endorsing her and she's great and we should all get on board. Well, she may be a great person. I don't know. I don't know her well, but I will tell you this she doesn't have a very long resume at all. She's been a state rep for one term and she was the lady that the establishment Republican house here in Indiana poured half a million dollars into her campaign to beat a Democrat.
Speaker 1:No to beat another Republican because they didn't like how radical he was on abortion.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know this one. Yeah, yes, so she's from-. We've talked about him before.
Speaker 1:She's from the Greenwood area and again, I am not on board with necessarily his tactics. The former state rep and I can't remember his name offhand, but that was odious to me, the fact that they spent half a million dollars to defeat somebody in their own party. That they thought was just a little too radical. I'm sorry, the Indiana Republicans, the conservatives, they kind of need radical because they're not radical and they're in power. They have super majorities in both chambers.
Speaker 1:They really kind of need some people that are going to push them to the right. So I didn't like that at all. I didn't like how that was handled. So that's her, that's who he's picked.
Speaker 2:Kind of sounds like she's the establishment.
Speaker 1:Well, it does, they put a bunch of money into her.
Speaker 2:It sounds like she's pretty indebted to them. Well, yeah, half a million dollars.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah. So it's Mike Braun, julie McGuire. We're supposed to all stand up and go yeah and vote for her, which we are not. I think she still wins because I think the establishment has the numbers. Wins because I think the establishment has the numbers If, if.
Speaker 2:I if, if I go with my gut, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't think Micah wins.
Speaker 2:I don't you mean at the convention, they held the numbers. I think so. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:But I could be wrong, because I mean, we got Diego Morales against the establishment last time. We got Daniel Elliott against the establishment. Last time those two candidates were, were, were the establishment did not want them, fought them, didn't want them at all, they squeaked by, but both of them won. Now in, in fairness, diego won pretty handily, and that that was a multiple factors. Both of them now have come out and endorsed Julie. So you're like okay, so you're an anti-establishment, the, the, the base supports you, and then you turn around and you endorse the establishment candidate. I just I feel like anybody that gets in there. It's just always they get turned up yeah.
Speaker 1:So that should be exciting. So so the next podcast we'll maybe talk about that, maybe, maybe something will happen. I don't know.
Speaker 2:So they do like an oral vote, like yay, and then, actual, there will be a real vote. Oh yeah, we go into booths, you're going to be boothing it because it's going to be that close. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's an all-day thing and we have to get up at 630 in the morning to make it to about three, 30.
Speaker 2:And this is this coming Saturday. Yeah, yeah, the day before father's day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, isn't that great. Well, actually, I kind of enjoy that. But I will say this I probably shouldn't say this on on air, but I'm going to. I have gotten so and let's, let's talk about sports here in a minute, but I have gotten. I've gotten so not disillusioned, I'm just so done with politics. I've gotten so not disillusioned, I'm just so done with politics. And I know, I ran for office twice and I, I know about it, I care about it to a certain extent. I'm always going to vote, I'm always going to be informed. Yes, jimmy, I am just fed up with the Republicans in this state. I just feel like they're, I just feel like they're welcome. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I just, you know, I just feel like they're.
Speaker 1:Andrew, welcome. Yeah, I just Welcome to the team. Now we're going to do a podcast and I'm going to talk about the spiritual forces behind the two political parties, and I know I've mentioned this before, but I think we need to talk about it again because it will explain why I have an issue with the Republicans and why I have an issue, obviously, with the Democrats. But the Democrats are, at least you know, they're at least out there Democrats, but the Democrats are, at least you know, they're at least out there. I mean they, you know whatever.
Speaker 2:Let's, let's let's oh yeah, I know where you're going. Let's move on. I know where you're going with that one, all right.
Speaker 1:Okay, so, uh. So your boy, tom Brady, uh gave a speech.
Speaker 2:This is not my boy I thought you were a Patriot fan. Everybody knows better okay it might have been me, indiana, obsessed with tom brady no, I am a new england patriot fan.
Speaker 1:Tom brady just happened to lead us to greatness over and over and over and over again. Lead us like you're on the team. Yeah, you know what people? Uh, that is the one comment that people got really mad at. When I say we, when I talk about the patriots, and it's it's like you're not on the team, you have nothing to do. But every real sports fan understands that, right, am I?
Speaker 2:am I off on that?
Speaker 1:I've never thought I was on the Cubs 2016 team, but if I'm talking to you, so it's Cubs is a big deal to you. Yeah. So if I'm talking to you about the Cubs and you and you're telling me going to say, well, our lineup, the way our lineup was, I'll say the cubs lineup you'll say the cubs lineup wasn't good. You'll say not our manager, the manager no, because I have.
Speaker 2:No, I have no ability to change the lineup okay all right, all right, so okay.
Speaker 1:So let's, we're gonna have to wrap up shortly. Uh, I'm getting the notice, but I still want to talk about Tom Brady.
Speaker 2:I think we're out of time for Tom Brady.
Speaker 1:I'm sure you are this is all I'm going to say about Tom Brady. Go look at it. It was a speech for Hall of Fame for the Patriots not the actual Hall of Fame, which, of course, he'll be first ballot when that happens, but anyway, it was a great line about working hard and how kids need to play football. Just because it's hard and life is hard, get prepared for it, and I thought it was pretty inspirational. I thought it was great. So go look it up if you care. Caitlin Clark man, that's an Indiana story that is national right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's. Unfortunately. I watched a couple videos, yeah, playing, and now my entire feed is full of wmba and I have. I have no stock in the wmba but it's really hard to let this go. It's just like. It's like a soap opera and they're loving it because I think, what were they? I mean the first nine games. How many of them sold out?
Speaker 1:yeah and she's the real deal, she's really good, she's the real deal. She's the reason why the ticket sales are up and viewership is up and they have treated her like trash and and it is. I mean, it's bad. It's not just on the on the court which has been bad, but they snubbed her from the olympic team, which is hilarious, because nobody I mean it's just, it's business 101 and they're they don't care, because they don't like her, because she's white, she's, she's not a lesbian, I don't know that.
Speaker 2:And she's good no, this is absolutely true the wnba is completely, completely run by DEI, completely. Okay, maybe no, it's completely. But here's the deal. Yeah, the better storyline is. It's not all of that. But if they get behind her they're not going to. But if they did, they wouldn't sell tickets and they wouldn't have people's feed going the way mine is going. It's making news. What?
Speaker 1:That she's being treated poorly or that she's yes, absolutely no, no, that's going to get old real fast.
Speaker 2:No, no, it won't, because people keep watching. It's like a soap opera. They keep sucking a minute For a little while.
Speaker 1:But that's not why they're doing it. I, but that's not why they're doing it. I mean, you got to be kidding. No, called her to the B word, ran up and slammed her to the ground. I bet they do that it was like, but I bet they do that to all I bet they do it to all of them?
Speaker 2:No, they don't. They don't, are you telling? Me that you got those women and they don't do that to each other.
Speaker 1:All highly competitive Women are the nast.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just saying that it's getting a lot of she's coming in as being this and she's tough, right, but she's coming in like she's getting picked on. She is though.
Speaker 1:I mean, I sit there and watch her.
Speaker 2:I watch her first game, I mean, they all probably get hazed initially. There's certainly going to be an element of that absolutely. Well, I mean, her dad was in the crowd one time, yeah, and he told her to stop being a baby. Yeah, I mean stop whining.
Speaker 1:She's gonna have to. But and I mean I remember michael jordan, just you know, for for comparison, I mean they, the knicks, beat up on him constantly. They went right after him all the time, didn't matter matter, they were going to take him out. So there is some flattery, I guess, the fact that she's getting that attention. But I think as a league they've got to fix this. Nobody wants to see her treated with kid gloves and nobody wants to see her injured to the point she can't play and that's what's happening.
Speaker 2:They stopped doing that to her. Nobody's watching the WNBA game. That's what's happening. They stopped doing that to her. Nobody's watching the WNBA game.
Speaker 1:Well, they will if she scores 50 points. And that's what will happen. I don't know.
Speaker 2:She's really good. I think that this sells more tickets than her scoring 50 points. I'm not going to see her get beat up.
Speaker 1:I have to be honest, we had a great time going. We had a great time going. I've never seen it's super. Do you know how cheap it is to go to a WNBA game?
Speaker 2:Did you go to Fever.
Speaker 1:Yes, I went to the game. It's like $2. Yes, wow, yeah, she's really good, but they don't use her, right it's pretty stark.
Speaker 2:I mean, andrew, they're like what? 15 games in.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She came hot out of college Like turn around here. You're now playing with the big girls.
Speaker 1:They college like turn around here, You're now playing with the big girls. They're not that good, they're the worst. The Indiana fever is one of the worst teams in the league. Well, that's why they got the number one pick. They've gotten the number one pick two years in a row. Yeah, that tells you I mean and they're way better. They are headed to pick the number one pick. Again, I mean it's, it's, it's probably, it's probably coaching, I don't know.
Speaker 2:When did the Patriots get the number one pick? Weren't they pretty bad last year?
Speaker 1:No, they were bad. They got a number three and I will tell you this too I'm a Patriot fan and our coach, our head coach I'm going to make a prediction right now he's going to train wreck this team. He is DEI all over. It is really pathetic and it is disturbing to watch. He was a great Patriot player. I think he's a great player, and I have heard nothing but whining and racist kind of attitude.
Speaker 2:What's DEI? You've used it twice.
Speaker 1:Diversity, equity and inclusion. Okay. It's where you aren't hiring bases on merit. You're hiring bases on what victim status are you and we want to bring as much victim status people in you know? That's how we hire, that's how we do, that's our thing, not merit-based Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm not going into that one.
Speaker 1:We have gone long enough. We'll do a whole podcast on that sometime.
Speaker 2:No, we won't. That'll be exciting.
Speaker 1:That'll be so exciting. I won, that was so exciting. I will be here for that one. Okay, folks, we want to thank you so much for watching this really long podcast. If you are still here, that is incredible and hopefully maybe Drew can cut some of this out. Probably you're not even going to hear this. Anyway, episode 26 in the books Great time talking with you.
Speaker 2:Jimmy, it flew by.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really did. We had a great time. Maybe we should do some more often so we don't have such, you know, gab fest. But, um, please like, subscribe, please, uh, if you want to reach out to us, uh, for any reason. Obviously you can make comments in the youtube, uh, on the youtube channel, but if you want to send us an email, it's uh jimmy mc squared podcast at gmailcom the mc squared podcast at gmailcom, and we both actually have that on our phones.
Speaker 2:yeah, so either one of us might answer you don't know, probably andrew because I just look at him and I'm like, yeah, maybe he'll answer that one, because they're usually no, we we appreciate anything you send in, we really do.
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