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Andrew and Jimmy Take Questions | Ep. 29
We went live and took questions!
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So welcome to the MC Squared podcast. I do not know what episode this is, but we are absolutely live on three different platforms and we're really excited to be here tonight. I'm Jimmy McKenna with Andrew McNeil. We have X running, we have Facebook running, we have YouTube running and this is going to be our first podcast where we're actually going to try to take questions. We've got some new software to kind of play with. We've already messed it up. We shot about if you were on about five minutes ago, we shot a little clip of us just talking about things, but we're started right now.
Speaker 2:We didn't do it early enough, or you would have heard us praying, because we always pray before the service.
Speaker 1:We would wrap the prayer. I think I was praying for technical difficulties and God didn't answer. And then the mouse got clicked somehow, Anyway. So let's get started. Andrew, what's been going on?
Speaker 2:Well, it's been a crazy couple of uh weeks to a month uh, in the news, and I know we talked about this the last podcast, so I don't really want to have to um, we had some technical difficulties the last time, to say the least. Yes, uh, so we had to um, yeah, I mean, we we have the last 30 minutes of the show on youtube it. It's still on there. There's a lot, quite a few views, comments had some good response from it and and I you know I'd love to apologize for it, because the video itself is just very freezy. It just freezes every other frame.
Speaker 2:Audio was okay, so you know. So we talked about a lot of stuff then and you know I don't want to have to regurgitate any of that. So did you see the news today at all about the female boxer at the Olympics? This is kind of the topic. It's kind of taking the world by storm and I'm not sure. Also, in between the last podcast they had the opening of the Olympics, which was another huge deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a little bit of a mess, it's actually been a pretty big deal here, even locally, but church-wide, oh really it was a big deal, did you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I saw the opening, the mockery of that yeah the Last Supper, yeah yeah, yeah, but then they kind of well, there was a lot of stuff that went online that wasn't true about the sponsors pulling out. I don't think any of that was true.
Speaker 2:No, there was one sponsor that pulled out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which was not the one that they had online, but no, I think they kind of dialed it back right after that. It was already done. Honestly, it was a non-apology apology, it was already done.
Speaker 2:They were trying to scrub the internet from being able to see it? Uh, so they started threatening anybody that was reposting or you know the video that was going on with copyright infringement, just to get that down because it was a pretty bad pr? Uh disaster. They, they, um they. They were clearly portraying the last supperpper. There was some argument amongst Christians that didn't want to have to face the cultural war that we're in by saying no, it was the Garden of the Gods, it was some Greek thing which, incidentally, the portrayal of that I found out today was directly connected to mockery of the last supper painting by da vinci. That happened 127 years prior. So it it was clearly meant as a? Um, a middle finger basically to not just christianity but but all of western civilization. It was full of transvestites. One guy had his privates hanging out, there was a child there and the woman that was the center of it, the lesbian woman that was in the center of it, was proud to you know, she said this on her social media to be the something the social justice Jesus. So it was clearly an intent and the outrage was pretty widespread condemnation from. What was interesting to me was how many people that weren't Christians weren't involved in the church, were outraged by it, got upset, protested, caused a stink, and then I started seeing trickles of actual pastors or Christians start to say, well, it's like the world. I mean, what do you expect? They're going to act like the world. They're going to act like the world Even though this kind of thing hasn't happened in our lifetime at the Olympics. This kind of debauchery and in God's face, but somehow we're just supposed to, you know, sit back and be quiet and passive because, hey, it's the world, it's the way the world's supposed to act. And it was kind of an outrageous but expected dereliction of duty by Christians, if you ask me. Now, that was a small segment, that was a tiny little minority, the majority, really. It was pretty outraged Today was the I believe it was the boxer, the female, it was female boxing.
Speaker 2:It was a female boxer from, I believe it was Algeria, and she quit 45 seconds into the match against a biological male. A man, uh entered and he hit her twice and she I mean she she couldn't, she wasn't going to do that anymore, so she quit. So she'd never been hit that hard before in her life. She broke down, sobbing the images, uh, of, of the aftermath of that are are absolutely heart rending, disgusting. She she gave a statement to the media where she um talked about her father who urged her on, had some really inspiring things to say about training and you think about all the training and the hard work and the effort that goes into it and you could see the absolute um heartbreak that she had that 45 seconds in. And it's done Not because she got beat by another woman, but because they'd allowed a man to come on national international television and just beat her.
Speaker 1:I mean it's just disgusting. So do we have any of that? Four years ago, I mean, was there any of that? I mean, and it was broadcast too, of all things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there's actually quite a bit of condemnation, as there should be. But what is encouraging to me, jimmy, is that we're not in four years ago, where you had a lot of liberal stuff. You've always had liberal, leftist, marxist ideology leanings and all of this stuff. I mean the world has moved left. I remember Rush Limbaugh saying that liberalism was the absolute, laziest, easiest thing you could do because it required no mental thought. There was no actual processing of thought, it was all feelings and emotions and it was the bravest thing to work on. You know conservatism and to understand actually work on understanding what liberties and freedoms and you know what conservatism is.
Speaker 2:But four years ago we wouldn't have had the backlash and right now what we're actually seeing is that our side, western civilization or Christianity, they're fighting back and they're boycotting. I mean, we've seen Target pull their pride stuff from their kids' area because of the backlash, lost billions. We saw, uh, you know miller light about go under just from the backlash of having a transvestite or, you know, transgender person be their spokesperson. We've seen incredible amounts of an awakening and we're not in the same era that we we were in before, I think. I think I think all of this stuff has just awakened a sleeping giant and I don't know. I don't think we're in the era that we used to be, and so, yeah, it was horrible, it was gross. Did you watch it at all? I mean, I didn't watch it at all.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't watch the fight at all.
Speaker 2:No, I mean the opening ceremony. Oh, the opening.
Speaker 1:No, no, but you know, but I really enjoy the Olympics, I really enjoy the competition of all of it and it was kind of a little bit of a bummer because I was kind of looking forward to watching it and it just kind of puts a little bit of a stain on or off the bat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there are so many and you were talking about the boxer. I mean these people, this is essentially their job. Yeah, I mean these people, this is essentially their job. Yeah, I mean this is what they trained for for four years to be able to get the Olympics in the prime of their life, because they're not going to continue to do that and they're probably going to have to go and work in whatever later on, but they're working at getting to the Olympics and so all that goes into it for this competition on the world stage. Everybody gets to see it and you get the, you can go after a medal or whatever to be the top, and then, I don't know, I, I love, I love the competition of it. But it just kind of put a little bit of a stain on, and I know that I feel so bad for the lady because I didn't see the fight, but I'm sure it will be uh well, it wasn't much of a fight, it was pretty.
Speaker 1:I'm 45, yeah, but I mean just think how many Hours, hundreds of hours, she'd put Into that just to walk out there. And obviously you have daughters and I have daughters and I mean Think about her father. I mean just think about her father Watching that.
Speaker 2:Well, he passed away.
Speaker 1:He passed Well, so then, so she was doing it for him, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2:And so what? Her father told her when she was she couldn't hardly do training anymore. She was just at the end of her rope and he said what do she goes? He said that boxing was similar to cycling. And he said what do cyclists do when they get to the end, when they can't go anymore? He said they cycle harder. Yeah, and so that was really. She's an inspiration, but what a sickening. I mean, who would applaud?
Speaker 1:I mean that's just I don't know, andrew, that there's going to be a lot of people applauded, because I really think that, kind of like you were saying, we're a lot different than we were four years ago, but I do think the enemy's plans are getting more ridiculous and they're going to be exposed, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's never got anything new, nope Right. And for this guy who is, I mean, that's a terrible place for that person to be. Can you imagine living as Trying to live as something that you're not Right and then being exposed on the world stage to as something that you're not? Yeah, I mean that. But he seemed pretty happy yeah but I mean, that's all a facade.
Speaker 2:I'm like you just beat a woman man. That's disgusting.
Speaker 1:This is what I want to know when the lights go out and when you're back in your hotel room by yourself what's it feel like?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly Because it doesn't feel good, man, and I think that the run-of-the-mill friends that I have that are liberal, I think that they're looking at this like what in the world, like why is this now being associated with us? I mean, I don't know, I think it's just a whole different sect of a mess yeah, of a mess yeah, and um well, the hope is that there's going to be, um, that there's going to be positive backlash it.
Speaker 2:What's interesting to me is is, again, you know not to beat a dying horse, but you, you, you deal with, with a huge segment of the Christian church that is just, uh, apparently an advocate for burying themselves in a hole and not participating or being an influence in society at all. Or they spiritualize it so much that the only spiritual activity you're allowed to do is be a seeker-friendly church that, just, you know, preaches lovey Jesus and that's it Like. That's it Like no offense towards anyone ever. And they'll preach a Jesus that I don't recognize in the Bible, a God that I don't recognize from Genesis to Revelation. And it's easy on sin, it's easy on do your own thing and add Jesus to it, and it's just, I don't, I don't get that. You know we're, we're called, as believers were called, to be an influence in society, be salt and light. Jesus said or.
Speaker 2:But if you look at the, the full scope of the of scripture, from, you know, from all of the, the examples in the old Testament, daniel always comes to mind. But who served in Nebuchadnezzar's court? Or in Cyrus's court, or Darius's court? All of these secular governments and he was an influencer for the kingdom of God within a secular realm. And Daniel's like I mean he's like the poster child to me of what in the new covenant, with Christ coming, we should be empowered to do, which is why I think Christians need to be involved in politics or culture or education or whatever it is, and to see that as a kingdom mandate, not necessarily. As well, you know the world's going to act like the world's going to act, so why are you offended? Well, we're not offended. It's a righteous anger and it's right. It's right that you should be mad at that. It's portraying absolute perversion on a world stage and it's being applauded. We have an obligation as believers to speak up.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:That drives me crazy. And then one of the legends and I say legend, but it's church history that Timothy you know Timothy in the Bible that Paul was his spiritual father was martyred by attempting to stop a pagan parade and worship in the streets of the city that he was in. He was killed for that. I mean, that's secular, that's worldly, has nothing to do with the church, and yet he felt compelled by the Holy Spirit to stop it. That to me, I mean this is the two churches we've got. We've got the passive, bury your head, pray for the rapture church, or we've got the church that says do business until he comes. God's given us a kingdom and we're going to multiply it, we're going to put it at risk, we're going to do whatever we have to do to see God's kingdom expand here on earth, just like it is in heaven. I'm going to get off my soapbox now. Do we have any questions Anybody? No, Not yet. Well, I know they're out there.
Speaker 1:Nothing yet. Oh yeah, questions anybody? Uh, no, not yet. Well, I know they're out there nothing yet.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, there's tons of them they're. They're typing right now. Probably they're talking. We can't see you typing. Yeah, so if you're on facebook watching, uh, if you're on x watching, um, if you're on the youtube channel and watch, just uh, you can type your question in at the live chat. Yeah, and we will see it here and we'll answer it while we're on live, which we're going going to be live for probably another what? 40 minutes, or so yeah for a little bit.
Speaker 1:So we'd like to test it by having some questions come in. Yeah, absolutely, it's not really good but no, I think the lost generation is looking for something. I think the lost generation sees a church this week, and why would you want to be a part of it?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean this week and why would you want to be a part of it? Yeah, you know what I mean, yeah, well, so let me pose this question to you, because this is kind of good. So elon musk this week tweeted out it's not a tweet, what is it? An x out, I mean, what really is a tweet? Still, it's tweet, it's. I mean, how else do you say it? But anyway, on x, elon musk, uh, he said after this was after the Olympics ceremony, and he's not a Christian, he is not a believer. But he said boy.
Speaker 1:I hate to pray. He dances around. He's been asked multiple times by multiple people. He dances around. I believe in the teachings but I'm not a Christian.
Speaker 2:But he said, unless, unless Christianity or Christians get more courage to stand up and fight, christianity will cease to exist. Now, what was interesting to me is, first of all, you had the religious people. Oh, elon, you know, you do not know anything. Christianity will never disappear because it's Jesus and he won't disappear. Okay, that's great, that's really cute. You've impressed everyone. And you're right, jesus isn't going anywhere and he wins.
Speaker 1:However the point Go back to your parsonage.
Speaker 2:Yes, but the point of what he's saying should be a huge rebuke to the silent, passive church.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That someone who isn't saved is looking at us going. If what you say is true, if Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and this is true, and the other side of this, jimmy, is hell, if you're not following him, then isn't that worth fighting for, dying, for speaking up, for having courage? And so I thought it was a very instructional moment. You had a lot of folks that said listen, this sentiment is absolutely correct. Obviously, christianity is not going to disappear or go away. But I mean, how many times in the Bible has God said Be bold, have courage, do not fear. Do not fear, only be strong and courageous. Courage is a Christian virtue. Tolerance is not. Passivity is not a Christian virtue. Tolerance isn't you are not to tolerate evil. Jesus didn't tolerate not. Passivity is not a Christian virtue. Tolerance isn't. You are not to tolerate evil.
Speaker 1:Jesus didn't tolerate it. No, he's the perfect example right. Yes, he didn't tolerate it.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:And I was looking, I saw a quote earlier today and I thought it kind of comes up with this from Bill Johnson, which I follow, and I don't know if you do or not, but I do, maybe not Whatever, but anyway he said, and I feel like it's a good quote he said Jesus never reacted to Satan. He was only reactive to the Father, it's true, and so he didn't react to Satan. Every time that Satan came after him, his only movement was by what the Father told him to do. Yeah, and he was never moved by what the enemy told him to do. But I was trying to find in here and you're just much more of a biblical scholar than myself, but, interesting enough, I was looking for a verse in here real quick. Well, just give me a second.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so while Jimmy's looking for the scripture.
Speaker 1:It's a good one. It works perfect with this.
Speaker 2:Well, that's yeah.
Speaker 2:it's just going to take me a few man just wait a second, wait a second well, let's see, it's going to be a couple weeks before we have another podcast, which is normal. We normally try to take every other week. We're going to do that but, like we did one last week, it was kind of a 50 50 mostly I felt like it was mostly a failure. But, um, so we're doing this one. We're gonna be a couple weeks and then I think, jimmy, we're gonna try to do like every other week on a thursday at seven o'clock, you're gonna go live that way. People can kind of plan on it it's a little maybe after supper ish, or can kind of plan on it it's a little, maybe after supper-ish, or.
Speaker 1:Most people should be home from work, dinner or dinner, or whatever one we would call it.
Speaker 2:Listen. If you're eating, just put your food aside and watch us.
Speaker 1:Actually, it's way more important to spend time with your family.
Speaker 2:What?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and eat the meal with your family, andrew, so eat your supper a little early. That's actually good for you if you can do that.
Speaker 2:But if you remember, send us a question or comment. I had one guy comment and he said you said it. Now that's great. That sounds like he's approving of whatever we said, but it was a 30-minute video, so I have no idea what he's approving of.
Speaker 1:What did you say, anyway? Okay, back to the verse.
Speaker 2:So I found it.
Speaker 1:It took forever, yeah sorry, whatever, I'm sure you'll know this one Romans 8, 22, and 23, but I have this in the Passion Translation, which is are you familiar with the Passion Translation, dr Simmons? Well, I don't know about dr simmons, but the passions, yeah, I know. Yeah, okay, so anyway, um, anyway, I'm going to read this and I just think it really kind of coincides with and this is a verse that during a lot of the pandemic, you know, I've I really felt like something that I leaned into, but I think it makes a lot of sense with what Elon Musk is saying. But it says to this day, we are aware of and so this is passionate, so it's not exactly like you probably heard before To this day, we are aware of the universal agony and groaning of creation, as if it were in the contractions of labor for childbirth.
Speaker 1:And this is the verse in 23,. And this is really key. And it's not just creation. We, who have already experienced the first fruits of the Spirit, also inwardly groan as we passionately long to experience the full status as God's sons and daughters through our physical bodies. And so in other translations it says that the earth groans and travails waiting for the sons of God to be revealed. Well, isn't that kind of like what Elon Musk just said?
Speaker 2:I know he didn't quote this, obviously no, but he's saying where are?
Speaker 1:they? He's saying where are they Because he is the earth? Yeah, absolutely no. But he's saying where are they? He's saying where are they Because he is the earth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's the secular realm, right, he runs X, he's over the secular realm, yes, and the secular realm's even saying where are the sons of God right now?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know what an indictment, but I do believe that they, they are rising up. I think God is doing something really spectacular that we've prayed for for years in the American church and I just think there's been. Maybe we don't see it like fully publicly yet, but it's been happening in the grassroots. I assure you there is a work going on that is a shifting and a changing of the guard. The old left wing liberal go along to get along. Passivity isn't going to cut it anymore. People want truth and if it's truth and if it's worth dying for, then it's worth fighting for and having courage.
Speaker 2:And I just, I think a lot of this. I mean what, what I'm? I try to wrap my head around what? What is the motivation of a pastor coming out and going? This wasn't about the last supper, this was about this, and why, you know, I get more offended, I get more angry at Christians who are angry at unbelievers than I do at blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking what is the motivation for a pastor to be absolutely unbiblical and ungodly like that? And I think A he wants his world to be smooth and without a ripple.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leave me alone, let me have my own little Christian world and not be bothered by a world going to hell. And then second, I think a lot of times these folks have a lot of rebellion. I think there's actually an element of rebellion against the righteous standard of the Lord. If you think about it. There are a lot of pastors or leaders or these you know some of these. They will preach against a standard. They don't like it. They'll say things like come as you are, jesus loves you just the way you are.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, there's a grain of truth there, absolutely. But you can't come to Christ going. I'm bringing all my baggage and I'm keeping it. That's not how it works. You come to the cross as a surrendered person, as a broken person. It's why Jesus said that it's almost impossible for the rich to come into the kingdom of heaven, and you know why. That is Because the rich are not needy, they don't need anything. That's right, and we have to come to Christ as a needy person. You don't come to Jesus with your own terms and I like this sin and I want to keep it. I like this sin and I'll. That's not how it works.
Speaker 1:You have to realize you're in need. Yeah, you have to, I mean, and that's like the hardest thing for somebody to do is to say that I need yeah, and you know. Unfortunately, growing up you're taught, you know, pull up your bootstraps and do this and do that, do that.
Speaker 2:but I mean we have to come to the point where we can honestly say I'm, I mean, I, I don't, I'm at the end of my rope yes and that's where and that's where, that's where grace and the lord comes in and does an amazing work and I feel like in the american church a lot of times we want that amazing work before we come to the bankruptcy of, before we have the bankruptcy of soul which we have to have. You have to be bankrupt of your own devices to fully accept the salvation of the Lord. It doesn't come any other way.
Speaker 1:So why do they do it? It's for numbers.
Speaker 2:Well, that too you get a lot of people that go oh man, itchy ears, tell me more. Tell me more how I don't have to be upset by the world, I don't have to be convicted of my sin, I don't have to really change anything. Tell me more about this kind of a gospel.
Speaker 1:Well, and then the interesting thing about churches is, if you preach that, if you water it down, you will keep your water down, people, true. And then guess what? Your job gets real easy. Yeah, now, okay.
Speaker 1:So this is always my thought on this Were you actually called Right? Or are you just doing it Right Because you know it's your career? Right? And I think that there's a space in there where, if you're called to do this, if you're called to do the Lord's work, you're going to have people come in, You're going to have people go out, no matter what, right, and you have to keep your eyes on the Lord at all times. And your call and your call, yeah, he's your boss, he really is, he really is, and there's going to be people who fall away. But the only way to shepherd yes, the only way to shepherd is to do it that way. You don't see a shepherd getting down there with the sheep and laying down. No, the shepherd is watching over the flock. I mean, that's like the picture of what a church leader is, but I mean, okay so.
Speaker 1:We have questions.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah, All right.
Speaker 1:So just, and you may know what this means, hot mic reaction video question mark. Do you know what hot mic reaction video is?
Speaker 2:So no, so somebody was caught on a hot mic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hot mic, yeah, hot mic reaction video. Was that recent?
Speaker 2:That it had to be a little more clarity. I have to know if that's about Trump or yeah, it might be. It's not being brought up again, is it?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know. Well, they're trying to run JD Vance down now. I love JD Vance. He's great. I do too.
Speaker 2:All right, let's talk about this real quick. The other big news that's going on, and this is a part of what kind of? Okay, be careful with this mouse.
Speaker 1:You're really afraid I'm going to shut it off. Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:We're there too, so is what's happening in Venezuela.
Speaker 1:Did you hear about this. Okay so, they're communists, okay so.
Speaker 2:Venezuela this week held their election oh gosh, yeah, and the opposition candidate I mean slaughtered Maduro, who's the dictator, communist, horrible person. The poor people of Venezuela have been under communist or socialist or dictatorship for, I think, 25 years. It's been terrible. They went from the richest South American country now to the poorest. It's devastating, it's very sad. So they have this election and the opposition candidate is very reminiscent of 2020.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I saw the pictures. So all of a sudden, they have to stop the counting because the dictator is getting slaughtered by 70% to 30%, or in one area he got no votes. I mean, it's just phenomenal. Well, all of a sudden, uh, and you look at the, at the graph it's the exact same graph almost that we had on election night, where then, all of a sudden, he jumps up and barely wins, and so basically, the uh, venezuelan people said're not, we're not putting up with this, we already know we won. And so what's been cool is and of course, our government comes out and condemns it, you know, and it's just like you guys are in there having done this. I mean it just well, such hypocrites.
Speaker 1:The graph looks the exact same, doesn't it? It looks very it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:I saw graham going along and then it's popped exactly it like, was going along and like this and then, all of a sudden, this bottom one goes like this straight so, which makes no sense at all. They've been disarmed, so don't ever let the government take your guns. Um, and they rose up. I mean, they weren't having anything to do with it.
Speaker 1:What did they rise up with? Like swords or broomsticks?
Speaker 2:They were hundreds of thousands of people, Hundreds of thousands of people in the streets and eventually they came to certain police districts and some of the police were laying down their arms and joining them. I mean, it's just some of the military was refusing to. Well, now he's issued arrest warrants for the opposition, just like you know, seem vaguely familiar with what's happened here in America. But anyway, what struck me was kind of with our conversation I mean talking about the difficulty of a rich person, let's say spiritually, spiritually rich, or a spiritually poor person, coming to the cross, coming to the Lord is that the spiritually poor person is able to recognize their own bankruptcy, their own moral failings, their own righteousnesses it's like filthy rags, the Bible says and they're able to easily accept the forgiveness, love and grace of the Lord and they're able to walk in it, Whereas the person who says I have no need. Well, it's kind of similar here, because what we have going on in america is actually very similar to what has happened in venezuela and and we are on a precipice right now, a real danger point in america what you see in the venezuelans was a desperation of I don't have a weapon, that it doesn't matter because I'm gonna die anyway and I might as well die free. And the determination of the Venezuelan people to be free was inspiring and it's still going on right now and nations around the world. But around South America they're not recognizing the dictator as having won, so they're standing, which is the difference.
Speaker 2:In America, we didn't have that. We had a lot of people going, oh, Biden's the rightful winner. Immediately before.
Speaker 1:I mean, they turned on Trump. I mean it was bad.
Speaker 2:But what I wonder, Jimmy, is, if that happened to us, say they steal this election again and they do it so blatantly that we all know what are we doing about it.
Speaker 1:Do you think we would do that? I don't Do you think we'd react like no, I think there would be a lot of people upset Because we're not at a point of need.
Speaker 2:That's right, because we're wealthy, we're rich.
Speaker 1:And we could say we really don't need to worry about.
Speaker 2:We can go to work the next day.
Speaker 1:We've got plenty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't like it that this is high, but we're not at the place.
Speaker 1:It's the frog in the boiling pot of water. Right it is.
Speaker 2:So I do believe God's going to have mercy on America. I do believe better days are ahead of us and I'm not saying we're going to lose this election. But if we were to lose this election, how terrible to have to go through maybe 20 years, 25 years of the consequences of letting this happen, to where we get to the point, jimmy, where we say you know what we've lost it all to keep it without being disturbed, without you know. So we could be in our passivity and like our little bubble of family and work and nobody's gonna bother us, nobody's gonna make us upset, until we become like the venezuelan people and we realize we went from the wealthiest nation to the poorest nation and now we're so desperate that we would rather die fighting to be free. We used to be like that.
Speaker 1:That's how the American Revolution happened. I'll tell you, there was, there's still a group.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:And I'll tell you where they were on January 6th 2020.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or 2020. Yeah, they were in Washington. That's the group that said we're not going to let this fall for the next generation. Yeah, and I think that that for the next generation, yeah, and I think that that group has to grow?
Speaker 2:Yes, but they weren't to clarify, they weren't the ones beating in the windows?
Speaker 1:No, obviously not. No, but they were the people that came across the country.
Speaker 2:Looks like you got a question post. Oh, we do.
Speaker 1:People that came across the country to go to be there on the National Mall. Yeah, I mean that's. No, it's true, I mean that's.
Speaker 2:And those folks were praying and worshiping and seeking the Lord. That's right. I mean, I know that for a fact. There were people on the ground, so yeah, Okay, so we have a question.
Speaker 1:So not sure who it's from, but I don't know how to tell. What is your reaction to the hostages that were released today were released today Is it a ploy for US dim votes.
Speaker 2:Okay, so, first of all, it's good news. Wall Street Journal reporter held for a very long time was released today in a package deal with the Russians. We do not know what the package entails. Yes, it's a ploy, absolutely it's a ploy. However, I'm I'm glad it happened. Um, actually that whoever can you see who? How can you? You can just click on it anyway. Yeah, so, um, that's a very good question.
Speaker 1:PG Okay, anyway.
Speaker 2:So now we're figuring out. So when you send something in the chat For some reason, just say, hey, this is so and so.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I do think it is. It is an election year ploy, but what we have going on, Actually tied to the news today I didn't even think about this is very disturbing. We have now allowed the 9-11 masterminds to have a plea deal After all these years too. Can you believe that?
Speaker 1:Doesn't it seem like maybe they're trying to push something through here?
Speaker 2:They had two terrorists that tried to breach Quantico. They let them out on bail today. Well, that's weird. The deal with the Russians for this is we want to know how much money, so when? Brittany, what is her name? Griner?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the basketball player. Yeah Was her name Griner.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the basketball player Was her name Brittany?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Brittany.
Speaker 2:So she went over there she was found with a little bit of weed. And then they made this big deal to get her back. The Wall Street Journal Reporter was being held At the same time.
Speaker 1:And they just were like You're just not.
Speaker 2:You're not a celebrity.
Speaker 1:An icon.
Speaker 2:So it was a one-on-one deal. They're like we had a one-for-one. So who did they release? For Brittany Griner? It was a violent arms dealer. I mean, we're just doing terrible things. This government is showing weakness. Honestly, it may be an election year ploy, but shows a lot of weakness. It just really does. So. Trump said hey, I would have gotten them without anybody, you know, without making a swap, I would have gotten, gotten them released, which I tend to believe. I totally believe that that would happen. Yeah, um biden goes, and why didn't he do it when he was president? Which, of course, they weren't hostages when he was president? But whatever, I mean, I don't even know if the guy knows what year it is. That's a great question. So what do you think? Election year ploy?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, it sounds like it is Funny timing.
Speaker 1:Well, it does sound like, you know, there's just so much stuff that happens in the next few months and it's, I don't know, maybe it's just. I mean, I don't feel like I'm looking for these things, but they just kind of seem to start happening and I mean, I do think there's just exposure coming and I think that the enemy is going to be fighting more and more and more as the exposure is starting to come and I, I think that's just um, and I think it's the enemies on both sides, on both sides of the aisle. I I think this is deep as it can get on both sides and and there's just gonna be well, what's?
Speaker 2:I don't even know.
Speaker 1:If it's, it's a. If it's a ploy from the, you know, the, the dems, I mean it could definitely be a ploy from the deep state of the Republicans. I mean they're afraid to get exposed Right.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely. I think what we're seeing here is there's a pattern, because this is completely a spiritual battle. It is playing out with physical people, it is playing out in the natural, but this is a completely spiritual battle and I think everybody in America realized that. I think around the world is doing something here. God is in the midst of all of this and what we've seen, what I've seen as a pattern, is the enemy will come with smoke and mirrors, intimidations, threats, a lot of threats, and it will feel like almost we're being overwhelmed, like we're losing, we're being overwhelmed, being overwhelmed, like we're losing, we're being overwhelmed. And then, and then, if you'll notice, there's like this shift and a breakthrough will come and all of a sudden, all of those threats and all of that smoke and mirrors just passes away and it's like we're dominating, we're absolutely dominating and this is a, this is a pattern that's been going on now, I want to say, for two years. I mean there's been this pattern of back and forth and every time the enemy comes and again I'm using this as a spiritual war. When I say enemy, I'm not meaning the Democrat, I mean I can't say in the Democrat Party, let's make that clear but I am not saying the enemy. When I say the enemy, I'm not talking about the Democrat Party. I'm not talking about the Democrat Party. I'm not talking about Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. I'm talking about Satan and his demons behind the scenes that are moving chess pieces on a board and God is defeating him, and I guess what I'm seeing is there's. So I could see another wave of oh my gosh, we're going to lose and these things aren't good and what's happening. And then I believe with all my heart, because we have a praying church and a more active church than we've had in many, many years we're going to see breakthrough and winning. We're going to win and I think it's becoming clear.
Speaker 2:God has a purpose and the Bible says that God always leads us into victory and to triumph Always leads us. He says in Christ we're more than conquerors, even in revelation. When you know people love to talk about the end times and revelation and the beast and we're all getting, you know, we have all this horrible darkness. If you have anybody that ever talks about revelation, it's always. It's always this horrible thing. But if the truth of the end times is that God says about his bride and they overcame him by the blood of the lamb, by the word of their testimony and by loving not their lives, even unto the death, which is to me, that is courage. It's saying your courage, your words, your testimony and the power of what I have done. You're going to beat him. He's talking about Satan. They overcame him. So we win, we're supposed to win and we win here.
Speaker 2:So every battle that's going on and this is a major battle for the soul of America right now, and we've been on it for a little while we're going to win, jimmy. But there's going to be days that are dark. There's going to be times when it feels like we're being overwhelmed and the new cycle is just bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. And I'm just telling you it's not real. The reality is God is behind the scenes, he's raising up an army and we're going to win. And I've become more convinced of that than ever after that assassination. I was already in that mindset, but after that assassination attempt and God spared his life, I'm like oh Lord, you are completely on the move here, you're in charge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he expects the faith out of his people, absolutely. He is such a good father that he'll also give you these glimpses of his greatness that are just so glaring and they're glaring to people that are even nonbelievers, that's the.
Speaker 2:Thing.
Speaker 1:I mean, and that's I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's what's amazing. Doesn't that blow your mind a little bit? How can you, as a Christian, sit in church all your life, read your Bible, and how can you be so blind? And people who aren't saved? Maybe you haven't even darkened the doors of a church. They're just good people, you know, they try to live by the rules, they raise their families, they love their kids. They're not particularly Christian, but they believe in Christian principles and they see this stuff as clear as can be. And you've got pastors and leaders that do nothing but muddy the water when it comes to the battle of our lifetime, the battle of this age.
Speaker 2:We should not be muddying the waters.
Speaker 1:The message of the church should be clear. So I have this question. I want to ask you If you've thought about this. It came up about five days ago for me and I was thinking about this. So when we celebrate Christmas, right yeah, and we celebrate the birth of Jesus, and we look back through all of Isaiah and I believe Isaiah 65, 40, all those they all are talking about the coming Christ, and then we look at it in the way Jesus was born and it all perfectly aligns, and then we all probably have this moment at some point where we're like and so why don't the Jewish people understand this, right, right, I mean, they have a lot of them. I mean obviously practicing, was they memorize those things in Isaiah? And so then we look at them and we heart is, and I've heard that there's this small section of Jewish people, especially the rabbis, that know Jesus.
Speaker 2:Oh, the Messianic.
Speaker 1:The Messianic? Yeah, but there are some that know that Jesus is the Savior of the world, but they're just afraid to come out because of what religion has done. So, with all that being said, how are we any different as Christians? Because we don't realize what power was left when Jesus died and said I'm going to give to you. It's better for you that I go Right, because I'm going to give to you the. It's better for you that I go Right, because I'm going to give to you the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit, yep, and so aren't the Christians that don't understand that, almost the same as the Jewish people that don't understand that.
Speaker 1:Jesus is Christ. I mean, are we repeating it? And we would say, well, you know, we know that Jesus, you know and we know Jesus and he's the son of God and all this stuff, but then they stop right there, at that Right, and it's really no different than what the Jews have, all this lineage no, it's true and all this knowledge, but then they stop right at the edge and there's so many Christians that are stopped right at the edge that don't understand what is given through the Holy Spirit. Yeah, and it's almost like a repeat of history, yeah, and I think it's just really interesting, because doesn't it always kind of seem to do that a little bit? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, that's a really good point and I think that I mean even Jesus said that in the last days, when he's gathered after the judgment and people are there, he's going to be telling those that were Christians, basically, depart from me, I never knew you. And they're going to say, well, lord, lord, why, you know, we cast out demons, we healed the sick, we preached in your name and he cast out demons. We, you know, we healed the sick, we, you know, preached in your name. And he goes depart from me, you, workers of iniquity, I never knew you.
Speaker 2:And so it isn't about mental and I think that's what you're talking about, because mentally, if you can go through that and you can prove your, it isn't. It isn't the perception that we have has to be with spiritual eyes, and I honestly believe almost all of that is tied to the heart. So we need a revelation or an awakening of the heart by God himself and I think Christians, myself included, you know I see certain things. I'm sure there are certain things I don't see that. I'm sure there are certain things I don't see In my life as walking with the Lord. I've had many times where God will hit you upside the head and you will understand that an entire view that you had was not even him. You didn't realize it. You're completely blind, and I believe that's the case with the Jews. I believe that script scripturally talks about a veil has fallen over them until from god, even until the time of the gentiles is finished and he's going to pull it off yeah I mean so, so that revelation will come.
Speaker 2:And I think the prayer for for us, for for ourselves, for for other believers, is, first of all, cause our hearts to break for what breaks your heart and then open our eyes. Because Jesus was constantly saying for those who have ears to hear, for those who have ears to hear, what is he talking about that you physically can't hear? He's talking about a heart that is so hard, so full of arguments and reasonings and unbelief, that you can't understand the simple truth of the gospel or the revelation that he brings. So the prayer for me has always been Lord, okay, I think I see it's kind of like the I believe, but help me in my unbelief. I see Lord, open my eyes further.
Speaker 2:I mean, I had an instance this week where this actually happened. I met with a good friend for lunch. We had a situation going on and he's a good friend and he actually has a lot of wisdom, so I'll ask him you know questions from time to time and been praying about this situation and really worked up about it, and I just laid it out for him and asked him and he had just great advice. That was like I don't know if I can explain it. It's like you're looking at something and it's never would have.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't get there without yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the revelation that comes from the Lord and we all need that. I think we've got to just realize it's that poor man. Again, we're poor. We need the revelation from the Lord. We need to see things the way he sees them and have him adjust our heads sometimes and have ears to hear.
Speaker 1:I was thinking when you said that I mean, jesus repeats that over and over. And when you said that I mean, are we really listening, right? I mean, in this situation, you seeked counsel, you asked and you were ready and listening. Are we really? Do we really want to hear, right? Do we really want to hear? And Jesus? That's the question Jesus is asking us. Do you really want to hear, right? Do we really want to hear? And jesus? That's the question jesus is asking us. Do you really want to hear?
Speaker 2:yeah I don't know, that's awesome well, what, uh, what's the time frame? I don't have a clock in front of me.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the time it was 750 well, we're almost ready to wrap up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how did it go so long?
Speaker 1:yeah, we've had.
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Speaker 2:Who's getting on?
Speaker 1:We can't see your name. If you're on, by the way, well, we should be able to, though.
Speaker 2:Why does that not? I'm trying not, but I mean over in the question. I can't understand why that didn't come in, but anyway it doesn't matter. So anything else before we wrap up and go off the air no, I feel like this was a very successful attempt. I was very discouraged last time we had where it was supposed to be broadcast.
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